Migration to version 14.0

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Todo

https://github.com/OCA/maintainer-tools/wiki/Migration-to-version-14.0

Modules to migrate

• account_banking_mandate - By @alexis-via / @StefanRijnhart - [MIG][14.0] account_banking_mandate #770
• account_banking_pain_base - By @CarlosRoca13 - [14.0] [MIG] account_banking_pain_base: Migration to v14 #761
• account_banking_sepa_credit_transfer - By @CarlosRoca13 - [14.0][MIG] account_banking_sepa_credit_transfer #764
• account_banking_sepa_direct_debit - By @CarlosRoca13 - [14.0] [MIG] account_banking_sepa_direct_debit: Migration to v14 #773
• account_payment_mode - By @alexis-via - [14.0][MIG] account_payment_mode #744
• account_payment_order - By @Oscar-Valverde - [14.0][MIG] migration of module account_payment_order #749 - By @CarlosRoca13 - [14.0] [MIG] account_payment_order: Migration to v14 #769
• account_payment_order_return - By @joao-p-marques - [14.0][MIG] account_payment_order_return: Migration to 14.0 #795
• account_payment_partner - By @misern2 - [14.0][MIG] account_payment_partner #745
• account_payment_purchase - By @CarlosRoca13 - [14.0] [MIG] account_payment_purchase: Migration to v14 #774
• account_payment_purchase_stock - By @CarlosRoca13 - [14.0] [MIG] account_payment_purchase_stock: Migration to v14 #775
• account_payment_sale - By @alexis-via - [14.0][MIG] account_payment_sale #759

Missing module? Check https://github.com/OCA/maintainer-tools/wiki/%5BFAQ%5D-Missing-modules-in-migration-issue-list

[phuctranfxvn]

account_invoice_select_for_payment migrated here: #757

[joao-p-marques]

I will work on account_payment_order_return

[pedrobaeza]

As everything is merged or ready, I close it, but keep it pinned.

[alexis-via]

I posted a message yesterday to contributors@odoo-community.org but it was not delivered, so I reproduce it here. Most of it is about OCA/bank-payment anyway.

Now that most of the key OCA accounting modules are ported to Odoo v14 and that the features that were moved to Odoo Enterprise have been restored in OCA (account_reconciliation_widget in OCA/account-reconcile and account_statement_import in OCA/bank-statement-import), I'm starting to do some real life end-to-end accounting scenarios in Odoo Community v14.

The scenario I'm currently testing is the following:

• create several vendor bills
• add vendor bills to payment order
• confirm SEPA payment order
• import bank statement with 1 statement line with total amount of payment

In previous odoo version, if the payment mode was configured with "offsetting_account" = "bank_account", it would generate an account move with the bank account as counterpart account ; and then, in the bank statement reconcile interface, you would match with a proposed blue line and it would not create a new account move but it would update the account move generated by the payment order and link it to the bank statement line.

As far as I understand (please correct me if I'm wrong !), this accounting scenario is not possible in Odoo v14. According to my tests on runbot Enterprise, when you are in the bank statement reconcile interface, you can still see blue lines in the proposals, but selecting blue lines will generate a new journal entry, it won't update the journal entry of the payment.

In short, the accounting scenario of vendor bill => SEPA payment => bank statement :

• with Odoo v9 to v13 with "offsetting_account" = "bank_account" : expense account => supplier account => bank account (total : 3 accounts)
• with odoo v14 : expense account => supplier account => Outstanding Payments Account => bank account (total : 4 accounts)
  So the accounting scenario is similar to what we used to do in v8 with the transfer account (now named "Outstanding Payments Account") before the introduction of the concept of "blue lines" on the bank statement reconcile interface.

If this is confirmed, I plan to update the module account_payment_order to remove the fields "offsetting_account" and "transfer_account_id" on account.payment.mode. We would keep the field "transfer_journal_id" because you may want to have the journal entry "supplier account => Outstanding Payments Account" in a specific journal that may not be the bank journal.

I plan to do the same kind of change on the module account_check_deposit from OCA/account-financial-tools (pending PR OCA/account-financial-tools#1088) : remove the fields "check_deposit_offsetting_account" and "check_deposit_transfer_account_id" on res.company.

As these are important changes, I prefer to post this message before creating the PRs.

[Maurice67205]

Hello Alexis I guess this is related to the new behaviour in Odoo 14 https://www.odoo.com/fr_FR/forum/aide-1/v14-change-in-payment-behavior-how-do-the-suspense-and-outstanding-payment-accounts-change-the-journal-entries-posted-177592 Regards Maurice

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I posted a message yesterday to ***@***.*** ***@***.***> but it was not delivered, so I reproduce it here. Most of it is about OCA/bank-payment anyway. Now that most of the key OCA accounting modules are ported to Odoo v14 and that the features that were moved to Odoo Enterprise have been restored in OCA (account_reconciliation_widget in OCA/account-reconcile and account_statement_import in OCA/bank-statement-import), I'm starting to do some real life end-to-end accounting scenarios in Odoo Community v14. The scenario I'm currently testing is the following: * create several vendor bills * add vendor bills to payment order * confirm SEPA payment order * import bank statement with 1 statement line with total amount of payment In previous odoo version, if the payment mode was configured with "offsetting_account" = "bank_account", it would generate an account move with the bank account as counterpart account ; and then, in the bank statement reconcile interface, you would match with a proposed blue line and it would not create a new account move but it would update the account move generated by the payment order and link it to the bank statement line. As far as I understand (please correct me if I'm wrong !), this accounting scenario is not possible in Odoo v14. According to my tests on runbot Enterprise, when you are in the bank statement reconcile interface, you can still see blue lines in the proposals, but selecting blue lines will generate a new journal entry, it won't update the journal entry of the payment. In short, the accounting scenario of vendor bill => SEPA payment => bank statement : * with Odoo v9 to v13 with "offsetting_account" = "bank_account" : expense account => supplier account => bank account (total : 3 accounts) * with odoo v14 : expense account => supplier account => Outstanding Payments Account => bank account (total : 4 accounts) So the accounting scenario is similar to what we used to do in v8 with the transfer account (now named "Outstanding Payments Account") before the introduction of the concept of "blue lines" on the bank statement reconcile interface. If this is confirmed, I plan to update the module account_payment_order to remove the fields "offsetting_account" and "transfer_account_id" on account.payment.mode. We would keep the field "transfer_journal_id" because you may want to have the journal entry "supplier account => Outstanding Payments Account" in a specific journal that may not be the bank journal. I plan to do the same kind of change on the module account_check_deposit from OCA/account-financial-tools (pending PR OCA/account-financial-tools#1088 <OCA/account-financial-tools#1088>) : remove the fields "check_deposit_offsetting_account" and "check_deposit_transfer_account_id" on res.company. As these are important changes, I prefer to post this message before creating the PRs. — You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#740 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ACW4ID23UKAM6ZOLHY4AW3DTJ7F37ANCNFSM4SDTRXAA>.

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[alexis-via]

@Maurice67205 Thanks for sharing the link. It confirms my understanding: v14 works the same as v8.
So the discussion should now focus on my proposal to change the configuration parameters on account.payment.mode in the module account_payment_order.

[sbidoul]

@alexis-via sounds good to me. I just have a doubt about this one:

If this is confirmed, I plan to update the module account_payment_order to remove the fields "offsetting_account" and "transfer_account_id" on account.payment.mode.

In this scenario transfer_account_id would be replaced by payment_debit_account_id / payment_credit_account_id configured on the bank journal ? I wonder if we have scenarios where the user wants to have different outstanding payment accounts for different payment / direct debit flows, but these would end up being paid / received in the same bank account. @gva-acsone @chrisdec

[pedrobaeza]

I prefer to go with the account.payment creation and support new "In payment" invoice state.

[sbidoul]

the account.payment creation

I think that is a slightly different topic, but it's been a while that I'm wondering if bank.payment.line can be converted to (or linked to) account.payment. I've not investigated if that would work well with payment groupings and all the workflows we can do with payment.order.