For SystemTags docs, list the actual tids with the tag

[twMat]

Edit: This ended up as a PR which is now merged #6798

The discussion can be considered "closed" :-)

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I would like doc tiddlers about SystemTags - for example this one - to also list the tiddlers with that system tag.

I want this because when creating your own, say, page control button, it is natural to copy and modify an existing such tiddler - but it is annoying to not access such system tids easily. (This is actually a general problem.)

To do this, a direct solution would be a conditional viewtemplate (all relevant docs are tagged SystemTags) but if this is not liked, then we could for each individual such doc tiddler add the following (because they're all prefixed with SystemTag: ):

<$let tag={{{ [all[current]removeprefix[SystemTag: ]] }}} >

The following tiddlers are tagged with <<tag>>

<$list filter='[all[tiddlers+shadows]tag<tag>sort[]]'>

</$list>
</$let>

Actually, it could be made sexier if it was a table also showing caption and icons if there are any.

Thoughts?

[pmario]

So every tiddler prefixed SystemTag: should get a new ViewTemplate element that is shown when the tiddler is displayed. right?

[twMat]

Whatever method is best to list the relevant tids. I haven't been following the dev very closely so I can't say what the best method is. What would you suggest? :-)

[twMat]

Anyone has a suggestions for how to best go about this?

Conditional viewtemplate?
Separate tid with the template text and then manually add a transclusion to all ~65 tids textfields?
Something-cascades-something?

[pmario]

I think it should be done in the same way as for operator templates ... but ... with list-after : $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/body instead of list-before.

[pmario]

the code would look similar to

<$list filter="[all[current]prefix[SystemTag: ]]">
<$let tag={{{ [all[current]removeprefix[SystemTag: ]] }}} >

The following tiddlers are tagged with <<tag>>

<$list filter='[all[tiddlers+shadows]tag<tag>sort[]]'>

</$list></$let></$list>

[twMat]

OK, great, so a regular conditional viewtemplate. I can make a PR but since I'm not gh compatible, it'll be in the form of an external wiki that I refer to. If you ( @pmario or anyone) could make the PR the proper way that'd be even better.
Here's the complete tiddler. It presents the results in a table so if there is a caption then this is also shown.

title: $:/editions/tw5.com/systemtag-template
tags: $:/tags/ViewTemplate
list-after: $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/body
text:
<$list filter='[all[current]prefix[SystemTag: ]]'>
<$let tag={{{ [all[current]removeprefix[SystemTag: ]] }}} >

<$list filter='[all[tiddlers+shadows]tag<tag>limit[1]]' emptyMessage='(No tiddlers are currently tagged with <<tag>> )'>

The following tiddlers are tagged with <<tag>>

<table>
<tr><th></th><th>caption</th></tr>
<$list filter='[all[tiddlers+shadows]tag<tag>sort[]]'>
<tr>
<td><$link/></td>
<td>{{!!caption}}</td>
</tr>
</$list></table></$list></$let></$list>

[pmario]

The whole thing is a documentation change and can be done using TiddlyWiki at https://saqimtiaz.github.io/tw5-docs-pr-maker/

The step by step howto is at: https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/t/7-steps-to-improve-the-tiddlywiki-documentation/2590

You can use the main repo to create the PR. Videos are at: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuiC_HFhI4Owy3oY_dZpYe7MGlW5JRGIY

[twMat]

OK, I tried. It seems to have worked but there was some last step in the form that looked like this

I have no idea so selected the first option (it was something like "standard tiddler").

If this didn't work, then I will just put up a separate wiki and hope that e.g Jeremy accepts it as a PR. And, frankly, in spite of the heartfelt efforts from you and Saq to simplify the PR process, the next time I have a PR I will not go through these hoops again because it is unfortunately still (way!) to complex and I have to re-watch and re-read everything every time. As you know, I'm a true TW enthusiast and already a gh contributor so I can only imagine what the average community member thinks. Github consistently gives me a feeling being stupid. I'm possibly not as smart as the big boys here - but neither is the absolute majority of our community where there are many members who definitely could contribute stuff to the project if there was a simple way.

Anyway, I'm off topic but the made PR is hopefully successful (...and accepted! The final hoop - LOL! ) Thank you for your help @pmario