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This issue is meant to collect feedback from Instructors (and helpers, etc) running pilot workshops. Leave open through January 2019.
Instructors, please add any comments you have about how your pilot workshop went. In particular:
- What type of an audience did you have? What was their background and skill level?
- How long did it take to teach each lesson? Were there any parts you had to leave out? Please be specific about what you left out.
- If you left out material, how did it seem to affect your learners? Was it ok to remove that material? Did you have to come back to it later? Was it confusing to skip certain concepts?
- What problems did your learners have with the installation? What solutions did you find? If you are comfortable doing so, please also put this information into the Instructor Notes for the relevant lesson(s).
- Do you have any specific tips for other Instructors teaching these lessons? If you are comfortable doing so, please also put this information into the Instructor Notes for the relevant lesson(s).
You don't need to answer all of the questions above! Please share any and all information that you think will be helpful for future Instructors of these lessons. I will be reading through this issue before the next Curriculum Advisory Committee meeting and will raise issues to that committee for discussion. Please also feel free to leave specific issues on the individual lessons. The Maintainers and Curriculum Advisors really appreciate your feedback!
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BinxiePeterson commentedon Nov 21, 2018
Hi @ErinBecker, here is feedback from my side regarding co-teaching the OpenRefine lesson for the Social Science Data Carpentry Workshop:
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ErinBecker commentedon Dec 4, 2018
Thank you for the fantastic feedback @BinxiePeterson! I just realized that the Maintainers for the individual lessons probably aren't subscribed to updates from this repo so I'll ping them here to take a look at these comments and see how they can be incorporated into the individual lessons. @gtlaflair @juanfung @chris-prener
ErinBecker commentedon Dec 4, 2018
Also @PeterSmyth12 @brownsarahm
gtlaflair commentedon Dec 5, 2018
Thanks for the heads up @ErinBecker (and thanks for the feedback @BinxiePeterson). @BinxiePeterson is the second person (at least) to mention that there are too many columns in the dataset for this lesson. This was brought up in another issue on the openrefine repo. @ErinBecker, should we meet or have a discussion about which columns to eliminate?
Do we have any other feedback about lesson duration? I'm happy to make those changes as well especially if the differences in expected duration and actual duration are a trend.
ErinBecker commentedon Dec 11, 2018
It would be great to move forward on the feedback on number of columns from @brownsarahm and @BinxiePeterson. I think it would be more efficient to do this asynchronously rather than setting up a meeting to discuss (there are a lot of time zones involved!) Maybe @gtlaflair could start a document or spreadsheet listing all of the columns that are currently included and indicate whether each column is currently used in the exercises. @brownsarahm, @BinxiePeterson, and other recent Instructors could provide comments and any corrections about whether the columns are needed. Does that sounds like a reasonable plan?
gtlaflair commentedon Dec 12, 2018
That sounds like a good plan to me @ErinBecker.
gtlaflair commentedon Dec 20, 2018
Hi @ErinBecker, @BinxiePeterson, and @brownsarahm, I've started an editable spreedsheet here. Feel free to look this over and provide any feedback.
juanfung commentedon Dec 20, 2018
This is great, @gtlaflair ! Thank you for setting this up. I will look over r-social-sci and update the spreadsheet.
brownsarahm commentedon Dec 20, 2018
Do we want to only remove columns not used in ANY lesson or is it ok to make the openrefine lesson use a smaller number of columns? We could tell learners we're using a subset for this lesson to make it easier with teaching/ scrolling just for that lesson.
Also, do we want to denote what's used in the tutorial part vs the exercises?
brownsarahm commentedon Jan 9, 2019
i'm teaching this lesson tomorrow any other updates on which columns? Otherwise, I'm happy to test (I'll have learners download 2 versions of the file so we can revert to the wider one if necessary// and probably move scripts early if I do that so that we can save where we are, re-open then apply the script to get back to what had been done).
Update: i taught from this file and it worked great! MUCH less scrolling. We also did download the full set of columns and apply the script at the end which worked as well.