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RFE: "seq_file" param to store change.seq and initial "since" value #42

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isaacs opened this issue Dec 24, 2013 · 9 comments
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RFE: "seq_file" param to store change.seq and initial "since" value #42

isaacs opened this issue Dec 24, 2013 · 9 comments

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@isaacs
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isaacs commented Dec 24, 2013

I find myself doing this every time I use follow:

var seq = path.resolve(__dirname, 'sequence')
var since = readSeq(seq)

follow({
  db: myCouch,
  since: since
}, function(er, change) {
  if (er)
    throw er
  saveSeq(file, change.seq)
  // do stuff...
})

function readSeq(file) {
  try {
    return +fs.readFileSync(file, 'ascii') || 0
  } catch (er) {
    return 0
  }
}

var saving = {}
function saveSeq(file, seq) {
  if (saving[file])
    return
  saving[file] = true
  fs.writeFile(file, '' + seq + '\n', 'ascii', function(er) {
    saving[file] = false
  })
}

It's not that important to make sure that every sequence ID is saved, and of course, a lot in rapid succession will NOT be saved. But, I write follow scripts with the intent of them being crash-only and picking up where they leave off on a crash. Couch is great for this, and it'd be awesome if follow made it easier.

Ideal API:

follow({
  db: myCouch,
  seq_file: path.resolve(__dirname, 'sequence')
}, function(er, change) {
  // etc.
})
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isaacs commented Dec 24, 2013

Also: I'd be happy to send a patch of course, but I wasn't sure at a cursory glance where to put it in the code. Any pointer would be great!

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jhs commented Dec 26, 2013

@isaacs How would you feel if Follow stored its checkpoints in the remote database, in a non-replicating local document?

In this case you would provide some sort of "follow ID" (maybe by default it is os.hostname). Follow already does a bit of pre-follow sanity checking so I think the _local query would have little if any latency cost.

{
  db: myCouch,
  client_id: "i am still awesome"
}

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isaacs commented Dec 26, 2013

That'd also be a nice feature, but the cool thing about a sequence file is that I can easily set it at a certain point, or scp it to a new server, etc.

If follow always defaulted the client_id to a specific field, then it gets a little more confusing. I have a bunch of followers of the npm registry, for example, all on the same hostname, doing different things. In some cases, I might want to copy the sequence file from one to another, etc. Files are a little bit easier to reason about, and don't impose a remote semantics issue.

Otoh, for some cases, it might definitely make sense to have a remote sequence ID. In that case, it'd be best to NOT default to anything, though. Just make it an option, like you could do either seq_file: 'foo.seq' or seq_doc: 'i am still awesome', and throw if you specify both, since that's just weird?

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jhs commented Dec 27, 2013

Yeah you've persuaded to KISS. Remote sequence ID can come later; or maybe
there can be a generic callback-metacallback API later. The fact that it is
not totally obvious strongly indicates KISS.

I will have to glance at the code again but this belongs somewhere in the
init or prep phase, where Follow hits /db to see what its last_seq is, and
generally gets its bearings before the real _changes query.

For how to store it in the file, I'm not sure. Either a Feed object could
subscribe to its own "change" event, or that could be handled by the user
at a cost of breaking parity.

Incidentally, is Follow the reason your program is crashing? It should not
really ever crash, even if the target server goes down or even changes its
IP address. Is there another bug that Follow has?

On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 1:57 AM, Isaac Z. Schlueter <
[email protected]> wrote:

That'd also be a nice feature, but the cool thing about a sequence file is
that I can easily set it at a certain point, or scp it to a new server, etc.

If follow always defaulted the client_id to a specific field, then it gets
a little more confusing. I have a bunch of followers of the npm registry,
for example, all on the same hostname, doing different things. In some
cases, I might want to copy the sequence file from one to another, etc.
Files are a little bit easier to reason about, and don't impose a remote
semantics issue.

Otoh, for some cases, it might definitely make sense to have a remote
sequence ID. In that case, it'd be best to NOT default to anything, though.
Just make it an option, like you could do either seq_file: 'foo.seq' or seq_doc:
'i am still awesome', and throw if you specify both, since that's just
weird?


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jcrugzz commented May 9, 2014

@isaacs I plan to allow a seqfile instance or filepath of sorts to be used in the refactor for v1.0.0

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isaacs commented May 9, 2014

@jcrugzz Kewl! You may want to check out http://npm.im/seq-file, if it's useful for you. It makes sure that the saves are atomic, which prevents spurious restarts at 0 when crashing mid-write.

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jcrugzz commented May 9, 2014

@isaacs yep that's what I'm referring to :)

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jhs commented May 10, 2014

@jcrugzz What 1.0.0 refactor are you talking about? Thanks.

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jcrugzz commented May 10, 2014

@jhs I have a refactor branch I was working on based on the changes-stream module I made. I would love your input and suggestions! I was considering using seq-file in the follow layer as the abstraction layer has shifted slightly as I have found it useful in application.

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