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| 1 | +# Node.js Technical Steering Committee (TSC) Meeting 2024-11-13 |
| 2 | + |
| 3 | +## Links |
| 4 | + |
| 5 | +* **Recording**: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llzo0-Vnrhk> |
| 6 | +* **GitHub Issue**: <https://github.com/nodejs/TSC/issues/1649> |
| 7 | + |
| 8 | +## Present |
| 9 | + |
| 10 | +* Gireesh Punathil @gireeshpunathil (voting member) |
| 11 | +* Chengzhong Wu @legendecas (voting member) |
| 12 | +* Marco Ippolito @marco-ippolito (voting member) |
| 13 | +* Matteo Collina @mcollina (voting member) |
| 14 | +* Michael Dawson @mhdawson (voting member) |
| 15 | +* Rafael Gonzaga @RafaelGSS (voting member) |
| 16 | +* Robert Nagy @ronag (voting member) |
| 17 | + |
| 18 | +## Agenda |
| 19 | + |
| 20 | +### Announcements |
| 21 | + |
| 22 | +* Rafael: Node.js 18.20.5, 23.2.0 were released this week |
| 23 | + |
| 24 | +### Reminders |
| 25 | + |
| 26 | +* Remember to nominate people for the [contributor spotlight](https://github.com/nodejs/node/blob/main/doc/contributing/reconizing-contributors.md#bi-monthly-contributor-spotlight) |
| 27 | + |
| 28 | +### CPC and Board Meeting Updates |
| 29 | + |
| 30 | +*Extracted from **tsc-agenda** labeled issues and pull requests from the **nodejs org** prior to the meeting. |
| 31 | + |
| 32 | +* No updates this week. |
| 33 | + |
| 34 | +### nodejs/node |
| 35 | + |
| 36 | +* test: improve zlib tests [#55716](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/55716) |
| 37 | + * Rafael, changes are requested as test is change to use node test instead of current workflow |
| 38 | + * Robert, key question is if we should re-write all of our tests with Node.js test runner |
| 39 | + * Rafael, believe discussion was that is ok use node test, but not necessarily a requirement |
| 40 | + * Rafael, discussion should continue in the process |
| 41 | + * Michael, believe in the collaborator summit, code and learn had people moving tests over to node test. |
| 42 | + * Robert, true, but some collabs were against, so was a task people could work on, might not be landed. The question is what is the value? |
| 43 | + * Matteo, my take is that we are ok with using Node test for internal tests for anything that is |
| 44 | + not used by node test, would have to list out it’s dependencies and those should not be used |
| 45 | + * Michael, that seems to mean that we need 2 test frameworks, and is it really worth it? |
| 46 | + * Matteo, in a lot of places we have multiple tests running in parallel in the same file, tests |
| 47 | + have a mini-test framework built into a single test file. Either split into files or use the test harness |
| 48 | + * Rafael, should probably also assess performance |
| 49 | + * Robert, there is also the high level objection which is to allow other platforms to run the Node.js tests. |
| 50 | + * Rafael, existing tests depend on internals |
| 51 | + * Michael don’t see how that relates to using test running or not |
| 52 | + * Robert, going back to theoretical advantage to Node.js. If we could have common implementation with other runtimes. |
| 53 | + * Chengzhong, my experience is that standard test suites use a vanilla test suite which is not tied to any runtime |
| 54 | + * Michael, that aligns with what I would be thinking |
| 55 | + * Robert, first question is if using the Node.js test suite is the right answer for the goal. |
| 56 | + * Leave on the agenda for next week for maybe when we have James and/or Yagiz. |
| 57 | + |
| 58 | +* assert: add partialDeepStrictEqual [#54630](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/54630) |
| 59 | + * don’t have the right people skip until next mmeeting |
| 60 | + |
| 61 | +### nodejs/Release |
| 62 | + |
| 63 | +* Enforce a more strict policy for semver-major releases [#1054](https://github.com/nodejs/Release/issues/1054) |
| 64 | + * Rafael, it has been merged. |
| 65 | + * On every release, it is a challenge to merge SemVer majors so close to shipping a new major |
| 66 | + * Policy documented to sync 1 month before, will no longer pull in SemVer majors after that point. Will allow time to run CITGM, assess, etc. |
| 67 | + |
| 68 | +### nodejs/nodejs.org |
| 69 | + |
| 70 | +* Add Vetted Courses [#7201](https://github.com/nodejs/nodejs.org/issues/7201) |
| 71 | + * Matteo, added for visibility |
| 72 | + * Fundamental problem has been “how to learn Node.js” from a source which the project believes is up to date and current |
| 73 | + * Now that we are onboarding Ambassadors, would be good to add links on the website to content for this from the Ambassadors that we have identified. |
| 74 | + * We should also link to training from the Linux foundation as well |
| 75 | + * Michael, maybe section on the website which is “content from our ambassadors” |
| 76 | + * Rafael, should we include paid content ? |
| 77 | + * Matteo, I think we should be able to include paid content as well, ok to provide a mix |
| 78 | + * Rafael, how do we tell the courses are good |
| 79 | + |
| 80 | +* feat: add streams guide [#7123](https://github.com/nodejs/nodejs.org/pull/7123) |
| 81 | + * Matteo: How do we acknowledge original content |
| 82 | + * In this example, the original authors are willing and supportive |
| 83 | + * Michael: “This content was originally shared by Y in X” should be included |
| 84 | + * Would be PR to collaborator guide in the website doc. |
| 85 | + |
| 86 | +### nodejs/TSC |
| 87 | + |
| 88 | +* Draft Statement of Work - Test flakiness lead [#1629](https://github.com/nodejs/TSC/issues/1629) |
| 89 | + * took off the agenda |
| 90 | + |
| 91 | +* Let's talk about the CI situation [#1614](https://github.com/nodejs/TSC/issues/1614) |
| 92 | + * leave on agenda |
| 93 | + |
| 94 | +### nodejs/next-10 |
| 95 | + |
| 96 | +* Ambassador program - message and topics for additional content [#302](https://github.com/nodejs/next-10/issues/302) |
| 97 | + * Next-10 team discussed and there will be more specific suggestions to consider through PRs so removing from agenda |
| 98 | + |
| 99 | +### nodejs/package-examples |
| 100 | + |
| 101 | +* Bootstrapping the initiative: TODOs? [#2](https://github.com/nodejs/package-examples/issues/2) |
| 102 | + * leave on the agenda for next time when we might have Joyee. |
| 103 | + |
| 104 | +## Strategic Initiatives |
| 105 | + |
| 106 | +## Upcoming Meetings |
| 107 | + |
| 108 | +* **Node.js Project Calendar**: <https://nodejs.org/calendar> |
| 109 | + |
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