Power On device when Player is Selected in UI : AVR, amps, etc

[Ltek]

Ask: Power On an entity when the Player is selected.

Example: most people do not keep their AVR or amps turned on 24x7. Mine is hidden in a cabinet and guests do no know where it is, and I don't want them to, nor do I want to mess with it, ever.

So it would be immensely helpful when the Ceiling Speakers (which are connected to a Yamaha MusicCast AVR) is selected, the AVR powers on, which is already exposed as an HA entity...

MA is so extensive I'm surprised this is not already in the options, apologies if I missed it. The Spotify Plus integration does this but MA is the best IMO so switched to using it.

[OzGav]

You should be using a HA automation for this

[marcelveldt]

Or player control set to that amp maybe?

[Ltek]

You should be using a HA automation for this

Please show or link to an example of how to make that work?

What event or entity state changes when a user 'selects' a Player in MA? Which is required to be uses to trigger an Automation to turn on the AVR.

thanks for the help!

[Ltek]

Or player control set to that amp maybe?

I dont understand what that means. I've very fluent in Home Assistant, can you describe that in HA terms please? thanks for the help

[OzGav]

I dont understand what that means.
https://www.music-assistant.io/settings/individual-player/#player-controls

Here is what I use to turn on and off my amplifier when my TV is turned on and off.

  - id: turn_on_amp_with_tv
    alias: Turn on Amplifier with TV
    trigger:
      - entity_id: media_player.sony_xr_55x90k_2
        platform: state
        to: "on"
      - entity_id: media_player.sony_xr_55x90k_2 
        platform: state
        to: "playing"
    action:
      service: remote.send_command
      data:
        entity_id: remote.rm3mini_lounge_remote 
        command: b64:JgBQAAABJ5MUERQ2EzYUNhQ2FTUVNRYOFDcUEBQSExAUERYPExITOBISFDUUNhM3EzcUNhQ3EhEUNhQRFBETERQSFBESExI4EgAFGwABKUcVAA0FAAAAAAAAAAA=

  - id: turn_off_amp_with_tv
    alias: Turn off Amplifier with TV
    trigger:
      - entity_id: media_player.sony_xr_55x90k_2
        platform: state
        to: "off"
        for:
          seconds: 35
      - entity_id: media_player.sony_xr_55x90k_2
        platform: state
        to: "paused"
        for:
          seconds: 120
    action:
      service: remote.send_command
      data:
        entity_id: remote.rm3mini_lounge_remote 
        command: b64:JgBYAAABKJITERQ2FDgSNxM3EzYUNhQREzcUEBYQEhIVDxUQExITNxM3EzYUOBI3EzYUNhU1FRAUEBQRFBETExITExESEhM3FAAFGwABKEgUAAxOAAEoSRMADQU==

[Ltek]

@OzGav I dont think you understand what I'm trying to accomplish. Your replies in no way accomplish it.

The gap is that I do not see any way to know when MA has "Selected a Player". If this is not exposed as an Entity Value or sent to Home Assistant as an Event, then there is no way to trigger an Automation.

This is a feature request because is does not exists from what I can tell.

[OzGav]

Be that as it may that functionality isn't available so I am providing you with a solution. It isn't relevant what "other plugins do" as they aren't supporting 12 different protocols.

[Ltek]

Be that as it may that functionality isn't available so I am providing you with a solution. It isn't relevant what "other plugins do" as they aren't supporting 12 different protocols.

I dont see how any of this has anything do with a protocol, in any way? If I'm missing this please explain but I know what a system/network/computer protocol is and this is not that. This is a single home assistant action, which is the same for any/all entities... Literally flipping the state of a media_player.. One option/setting in the UI and a few lines of code (IF/THENs) to determine if the player changed from not-selected to selected (power it on) or the reverse

The alternative is if MA exposed an event 'player selected ' or had an MA entity with a 'player selected' value we'd have something to trigger an automation on.

[OzGav]

There are a lot of things that could be done. You are free to submit a PR for this apparently easy fix. You can also submit a feature request with clarity around exactly what the use case is and what is desired. We work on a voting system to prioritise effort.

[marcelveldt]

Isn't this a matter of using a home assistant entity as power control for the player? That is where we created that feature for..,

[Ltek]

Isn't this a matter of using a home assistant entity as power control for the player? That is where we created that feature for..,

there is no trigger from MA to do so. I opened a Feature Request... https://github.com/orgs/music-assistant/discussions/4359