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Multiple account log-in #435
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Hi FireSphere, |
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It would still complain, because Spotify only allows one stream per account. Which is why the ability to select which spotify account is used as source is a crucial and missing feature |
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AFIK MA will use the first Spotify account configured. Probably that solves you issue |
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It doesn’t. Because as soon as you play Spotify in a different room, the first stream stops. Which is why selecting a source account is a crucial feature. |
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I see. I only play one stream to multiple rooms. So never encountered that limitation |
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Hi @erkr , That would be an option, but given we are on a Duo plan, since it's just the two of us, switching to a Family plan just for that feels like a bit of overkill :) It's not a big deal, it just would be useful I think :) |
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Yes that is a little overkill indeed. |
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The entire backend of MA is already prepared for multiple accounts. I just still need to update the HA integration config wizard. |
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Hey @marcelveldt, what is the status on the implementation? |
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The original question was about adding multiple Spotify accounts. This is already possible. |
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The original question was specifying which spotify account is used as the source, not adding multiple accounts. We still can't specify which account to use. |
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Moved to discussions, raise your votes! |
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I would like a different implementation of multiple accounts. It would be nice if I could add multiple instances of the integration that create different dashboards so me and my wife have our own Music Assistant dashboard with our own spotify account. |
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tis would be cool |
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This would be ideal! |
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I think a simple button on the bottom for switching accounts would be perfect. We are a family of four people with completely different tastes in music and individual Spotify accounts. Would be great if all of us could use MA. I am currently running LMS, because it allows to create individual Spotify Connect devices, that we all can connect to individually from our Spotify apps. |
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I'm still searching for a solution to nicely control multiple spotify accounts with different streaming endpoints to make our life easier on this end. Adding a simple button to choose the spotify account which is used to play content would make music assistant great for this purpose. |
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I agree. In the meantime, I created a playlist on each kid’s account and then use music assistant to play the playlist to their respective media players. Music assistant uses the account the playlist exists in. Not ideal, but ok for now. |
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Thanks for the hint. Saw that already, but for me that is not really useful. We start a lot of different audio books all the time for the kids and having individual playlists would not makt management easier ;) |
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Hi, I am using Spotify for my kids, both have their separate accounts, but no mobile devices yet trigger or choose any music. What I do is, giving them NFC/RFID cars with a reader. So both can choose the music, audiobooks etc based on those cards. In combination with spotify connect and the speakers I have this works, kind of with what HA already is capable of. The problem is basically choosing the speakers, if there is no mobile device running spotify, the HA media player spotify integratin does not know the speaker and therefore content cannot be played. This seems different with how music assistant is interacting with spotify, with this integration playing music on speaker always works without problems, but only with one account. So I would love to see music assistant having the option to choose the speaker and the spotify account the content is coming from to handle "such" scenarios. THANKS |
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ok, do you have any details already, why it does not solve my issue - or should I just wait until the release drops. |
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Sorry I do not. I haven’t seen the final implementation details so can’t 100% say whether it will meet your requirements. If you could be patient that would be great. |
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I still dont see the option to specify which Spotify account to play from. I was able to add all 4 spotify accounts separately, but it doesnt appear possible to tell MA to use one spotify account and play on one speaker and use a different spotify account to play on a different speaker. |
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Playlists will play from the account they originate from |
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Ok, so @feutl we should be able to create playlists in each spotify account, name them differently, and then whatever we add to the playlist will play from the correct account |
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Any update on this functionality? We really need to be able to specify which Spotify account to use for which speaker. |
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Sorry I don’t understand why it matters which Spotify account is used except for people that care about the stats that Spotify has for creating some lists but that is a separate feature request. https://github.com/orgs/music-assistant/discussions/2664 |
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Because Spotify only allows you to stream to one speaker at a time. So when I stream my sons sleep music to his speaker, then I stream my daughters sleep music to her speaker, it uses the same account and stops my son’s music. I need to be able to play from my son’s account to my son’s speaker and from my daughter’s account to my daughter’s speaker at the same time. |
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Exactly, spotify wants one account per stream (at least unsing all other interfaces I know). As I just learned music assistant seems to circumvent this somehow. Not sure if this is a TOS breaking feature, but things will still break once I use any of the official ways to control spotify or enter my car (which automatically switches a running stream on my account to it). |
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Right, and a button or selector in music assistant to specify which Spotify account to use as source would fix it without breaking TOS |
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I can play multiple streams from one account.
…On Wed, Aug 7, 2024, 5:39 PM gtbdf1 ***@***.***> wrote:
Because Spotify only allows you to stream to one speaker at a time. So
when I stream my sons sleep music to his speaker, then I stream my
daughters sleep music to her speaker, it uses the same account and stops my
son’s music.
I need to be able to play from my son’s account to my son’s speaker and
from my daughter’s account to my daughter’s speaker at the same time.
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No you can’t. |
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It does work if all of them start IN MA (just did some testing it seems to get around some of the limits) however if you are listening on a separate Spotify device like your phone you will get kicked there so the feature request is still relevant as it would avoid conflicts outside MA. |
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I understand it doesn't work natively with Spotify... But if you have one
Spotify account (like I have) and multiple speakers (like I have), using
music assistant you can have different things playing on different speakers
at the SAME time. My kids are currently listening to kids lullaby from
spotify on their bedroom Google home and I am listening to music from
spotify on my living room speaker.
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Oh I see what you mean… interesting… I’ll try this tonight. Thanks |
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Just tested it this morning with two devices. Not sure, if there is a limit to this, but this is clearly breaking with spotiy intended beahavior. People are asking for this as a feature on spotify forums for ages and the official answers is "one stream per account". So, maybe a TOS breaking feature? |
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It didn’t work for me either. I just want a button or selector in music assistant to specify which Spotify account to use as source. |
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Yeah this is a bug we need to fix some day. We however have such a big backlog that this is on the longlist. |
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Any chance this will be added soon? As it is, I can't play different spotify in multiple rooms at the same time, which was my main hope for MA. |
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Sorry there is little chance for “soon” as there are a lot more higher priority items |
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Too bad as this would really be a unique feature you cannot find in many other solutions. |
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Surely with the increasing use of Assist, this should be higher priority? What happens if multiple people in the house want to listen to Spotify in separate rooms, at the same time? It would be nice if you could set a default Spotify account for each user in HA, so that in the future, when voice matching is a thing, HA and MA can figure out which Spotify account to use for each person. |
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That will just work - did you even try it ? |
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don 't know if my request fits in this thread or i might need to raise a new one. I'm chosing this place because it might solve this issue too: a sorting option in playlists for different spotify accounts... |
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Some routing logic would be amazing for the duo / family account houses as going to voice assistants makes this even worse. For play lists if they are account specific it will sort of work out most of the time, unless the same playlist has been shared with another family member? Pinning a default account to a device would help a lot as well, then I could PIN peoples room devices to their accounts and logins in HA, and the living room one could be pinned to a generic account within the family account. This would avoid most conflicts other than between my wife and I on the bedroom speaker lol. For single song requests it would be amazing if it did an in use check.. if the request is for a different device, used the next account not in use. This would help prevent KICKING people when just making a single song request which isn't account specific. Having an ordered list of preferred accounts for For single song requests would be needed. |
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Taking this a step further if a LOCAL file source or a LOCAL source like Plex has the SAME song, it would be nice if we could say something like always prefer local copy to avoid conflicts. |
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That is already the case https://music-assistant.io/installation/#usage-and-notes |
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the wording on this is confusing, does the local copy need to be higher quality? What if Spotify is higher?
Edit: Is plex always considered local ? or is this LOCAL as in the MA native local mapping of a folder? |
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Related to one of the issues above is it possible to BLOCK casting to devices that have a state of "External Source Active"? |
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Maybe you could do it as part of an automation but I haven’t looked at the attributes to see what might be useful in that situation. |
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Until we can specify which Spotify account to stream from, this is a problem with MA. It’s impossible to play Spotify in two different rooms at once. |
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I don’t know why you don’t listen to the responses you get. Have you tried it? |
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Yes, constantly. I tell MA to play Spotify on one speaker, then tell it to
play a different song on Spotify on another speaker, and it stops playing
the first song on the first speaker. This would not be an issue if we could
tell it which Spotify account to use.
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I don’t know why you don’t listen to the responses you get. Have you tried
it?
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Then you have something wrong with your setup |
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As a user, I'd like to be able to have both my own and my partner's Spotify login set up, so that we get a combined list of our Spotify playlists.
Admitted, a split option would be better, but since right now it's all flattened, I'd say "flatten it".
The playback isn't an issue, it's more about getting all the playlists etc.
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