From d2b98adabd345f841cb5cdddc15b281fe79c2908 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: abraker Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2022 13:28:22 -0500 Subject: [PATCH 01/11] Rough draft of off-topic subforum wiki entry --- wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/en.md | 71 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 71 insertions(+) diff --git a/wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/en.md b/wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/en.md index a3005329b3bd..77958fb9af60 100644 --- a/wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/en.md +++ b/wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/en.md @@ -7,3 +7,74 @@ stub: true [**Off-Topic**](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/52) is a forum meant for the community to have conversations without any particular topic in focus. Threads can often be random, change topic, and/or have multiple topics simultaneously. Topics can range anything from daily life, opinions about the game, role play, jokes and meta content, nonsense, or anything in between. + +## History + +The "General Discussion" subforum initially hosted any gameplay unrelated topic the people wanted to talk about. As forum games started polluting the subforum, people suggested making a seperate subforum for "self perpetuating threads". On 19 Febuary 2009 ppy created the suggested subforum named "Forum Games/Random". + +The new subforum created a distinction that "General Discussion" is to be used for serious discussions while "Forum Games/Random" is to be used for forum games and non-serious discussions. Given the nature "Forum Games/Random" subforum, people would often interrupt games hosted with random conversations. On 2 Febuary 2010 "Forum Games/Random" was renamed to "Off-Topic" and the "Forum Games" subforum was created. + +Two more subforum would later be created: "Mafia" subforum on 14 September 2011, and "Surveys" subforum on 5 March 2014. + +## Traditions and Culture +#### Valhalla + +Given the nonsensical nature of OT, majority of threads and discussions carried out in the subforum are of very poor quality. Threads are rarely considered great, but when they are it is said to have reached valhalla. + +The term was first used by Ephemeral in the [ITT: We're Dirty](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/40298) thread, and subsequentially a few time after. Since then others people in the subforum have adopted the term. + +#### Old Avatar Week + +Old Avatar Week as an annual event in celebration of the upcoming new year. On December 28 of every year people would change their avatar to one of their older one for one week. This would remind OT regulars of an older time when the person had the avatar, giving a sense of reflection between current times and older times like the transition from the old year to the new year. + +#### Dancing anime girls + +People in the early off-topic days occasionally created threads dedicated to dancing anime girls. If a thread was bad then posting a few dancing anime girls made it better. When people started making threads about quitting OT and actually not quitting, people took that as attention grabbing and posted dancing anime girls to change thread's topic. Eventually posting dancing anime girls on any goodbye or welcome thread was a common thing to do, and thus solidifying as a tradition. + +On 9 June 2017 Ephemeral asserted slightly different version of the tradition into the [off-topic rules](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/604424) by requiring people to post no less than 3 dancing anime girls on birthday threads. This made its way to the osu!'s official rules up until 11 November 2019 when it was removed in a cleanup effort. As of writing the rule still stands in the off-topic subforum's rules. + + +#### Exile + +Exile is an unofficial moderation concept introduced by Ephemeral in [the grand edict thread](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/604424) in response to people repeatedly spamming the subforum and creating otherwise annoying content. The exile system is enforced by moderation by removing any thread, and sometimes posts, by the person who is exiled. It serves as an indicator that the person is on the verge of being heavily sanctioned by more official means of moderation. + +#### Denizen + +Since the off-topic subforum is composed of mostly the same regulars chatting among themselves in threads, everyone comes to know one another other. Those who stick around long enough to be considered regulars are called "denizen". While this term was first used by Ephemeral in [this thread](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/posts/1607086), it was not adopted by regulars until its popularization by the [OT!News thread series](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/577518). + +#### OT Lore + +OT Lore is an effort started by abraker and perpetuated by other denizens to create a story narrative consisting out of various threads people in OT create. The culmination of this effort was compiled into the [OT!Chronicles](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/posts/6230570), and shaped a time period of OT which consisted of many improvised roleplay related threads. + +#### Thread Derails + +Thread derailment is common in OT due to the definition of its nature - "Off-topic".This means a thread created with a topic in mind cannot be expected to remain on that topic. + +## Notable threads + +Despite majority of OT being nonsense and misc content of unimportance, there are some notable mentions for people unfamiliar with the subforum to check out. + +#### OT!News series + +This series of threads is a great way to get a sense of the highs and lows of OT without seeing most of the nonsense. + +https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/posts/5942617 + +#### OT COURT II: A-Breaking Laboratory & R.O.S.Q. vs Asht. Co + +OT Court is OT Lore material involving a detailed imitation of an actual trial. Its organization was improvised on the spot and, against all odds, it successfully lasted from beginning to end without lost of interest or being derailed. + +https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/posts/6956061 + +#### Tad the Tadpole + +This is a joke thread turned in OT Lore material. It is a great example of how denizens can create jokes threads about each other and then proceed to build narrative off the resulting interactions. It also demonstrate the unpredictable nature of how threads evolve and the nonsensical randomness that may come out of it. + +https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/posts/7126163 + + +#### Testing + +OT Lore material that creates an interesting improvised narrative involving a mega-teletubby god that wrecks havoc upon OT and denizen efforts to destroy it. + +https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/posts/7549082 From 00214ddb44f2bf3d004f6e45ccf963777d8f1e9a Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: abraker Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2022 22:15:10 -0500 Subject: [PATCH 02/11] Spelling corrections --- wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/en.md | 6 +++--- 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) diff --git a/wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/en.md b/wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/en.md index 77958fb9af60..40b51768a261 100644 --- a/wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/en.md +++ b/wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/en.md @@ -10,9 +10,9 @@ stub: true ## History -The "General Discussion" subforum initially hosted any gameplay unrelated topic the people wanted to talk about. As forum games started polluting the subforum, people suggested making a seperate subforum for "self perpetuating threads". On 19 Febuary 2009 ppy created the suggested subforum named "Forum Games/Random". +The "General Discussion" subforum initially hosted any gameplay unrelated topic the people wanted to talk about. As forum games started polluting the subforum, people suggested making a separate subforum for "self perpetuating threads". On 19 February 2009 ppy created the suggested subforum named "Forum Games/Random". -The new subforum created a distinction that "General Discussion" is to be used for serious discussions while "Forum Games/Random" is to be used for forum games and non-serious discussions. Given the nature "Forum Games/Random" subforum, people would often interrupt games hosted with random conversations. On 2 Febuary 2010 "Forum Games/Random" was renamed to "Off-Topic" and the "Forum Games" subforum was created. +The new subforum created a distinction that "General Discussion" is to be used for serious discussions while "Forum Games/Random" is to be used for forum games and non-serious discussions. Given the nature "Forum Games/Random" subforum, people would often interrupt games hosted with random conversations. On 2 February 2010 "Forum Games/Random" was renamed to "Off-Topic" and the "Forum Games" subforum was created. Two more subforum would later be created: "Mafia" subforum on 14 September 2011, and "Surveys" subforum on 5 March 2014. @@ -21,7 +21,7 @@ Two more subforum would later be created: "Mafia" subforum on 14 September 2011, Given the nonsensical nature of OT, majority of threads and discussions carried out in the subforum are of very poor quality. Threads are rarely considered great, but when they are it is said to have reached valhalla. -The term was first used by Ephemeral in the [ITT: We're Dirty](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/40298) thread, and subsequentially a few time after. Since then others people in the subforum have adopted the term. +The term was first used by Ephemeral in the [ITT: We're Dirty](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/40298) thread, and subsequently a few time after. Since then others people in the subforum have adopted the term. #### Old Avatar Week From 2ef496cee975b3927b8fb0472324b9b04d853e28 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: abraker Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2022 00:21:39 -0500 Subject: [PATCH 03/11] Apply suggest changes --- wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/en.md | 64 +++++++++++++++++----------- 1 file changed, 39 insertions(+), 25 deletions(-) diff --git a/wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/en.md b/wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/en.md index 40b51768a261..3eb7a3a95b25 100644 --- a/wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/en.md +++ b/wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/en.md @@ -1,80 +1,94 @@ ---- -stub: true ---- - # Off-Topic - - [**Off-Topic**](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/52) is a forum meant for the community to have conversations without any particular topic in focus. Threads can often be random, change topic, and/or have multiple topics simultaneously. Topics can range anything from daily life, opinions about the game, role play, jokes and meta content, nonsense, or anything in between. ## History -The "General Discussion" subforum initially hosted any gameplay unrelated topic the people wanted to talk about. As forum games started polluting the subforum, people suggested making a separate subforum for "self perpetuating threads". On 19 February 2009 ppy created the suggested subforum named "Forum Games/Random". +The [General Discussion](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/7) subforum initially hosted any gameplay unrelated topic the people wanted to talk about. As forum games started polluting the subforum, people suggested making a separate subforum for "self perpetuating threads" [[1]](#references). On 19 February 2009 [peppy](/wiki/People/peppy) created the suggested subforum named *Forum Games/Random* [[2]](#references) [[3]](#references). -The new subforum created a distinction that "General Discussion" is to be used for serious discussions while "Forum Games/Random" is to be used for forum games and non-serious discussions. Given the nature "Forum Games/Random" subforum, people would often interrupt games hosted with random conversations. On 2 February 2010 "Forum Games/Random" was renamed to "Off-Topic" and the "Forum Games" subforum was created. +The new subforum created a distinction that *General Discussion* is to be used for serious discussions while *Forum Games/Random* is to be used for forum games and non-serious discussions. Given the nature of the *Forum Games/Random* subforum, people would often interrupt games hosted with random conversations [[4]](#references). On 2 February 2010, "Forum Games/Random" was renamed to *Off-Topic* and the *Forum Games* subforum was created [[4]](#references). -Two more subforum would later be created: "Mafia" subforum on 14 September 2011, and "Surveys" subforum on 5 March 2014. +Two more subforum would later be created: *Mafia* subforum on 14 September 2011, and *Surveys* subforum on 5 March 2014. -## Traditions and Culture -#### Valhalla +## Traditions and culture + +### Valhalla Given the nonsensical nature of OT, majority of threads and discussions carried out in the subforum are of very poor quality. Threads are rarely considered great, but when they are it is said to have reached valhalla. The term was first used by Ephemeral in the [ITT: We're Dirty](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/40298) thread, and subsequently a few time after. Since then others people in the subforum have adopted the term. -#### Old Avatar Week +### Old Avatar Week Old Avatar Week as an annual event in celebration of the upcoming new year. On December 28 of every year people would change their avatar to one of their older one for one week. This would remind OT regulars of an older time when the person had the avatar, giving a sense of reflection between current times and older times like the transition from the old year to the new year. -#### Dancing anime girls +### Dancing anime girls -People in the early off-topic days occasionally created threads dedicated to dancing anime girls. If a thread was bad then posting a few dancing anime girls made it better. When people started making threads about quitting OT and actually not quitting, people took that as attention grabbing and posted dancing anime girls to change thread's topic. Eventually posting dancing anime girls on any goodbye or welcome thread was a common thing to do, and thus solidifying as a tradition. +People in the early off-topic days occasionally created threads dedicated to dancing anime girls. If a thread was bad then posting a few dancing anime girls made it better. When people started making threads about quitting OT and actually not quitting, people took that as attention grabbing and posted dancing anime girls to change thread's topic. Eventually posting dancing anime girls on any goodbye or welcome thread was a common thing to do, and thus solidifying as a tradition [[6]](#references). -On 9 June 2017 Ephemeral asserted slightly different version of the tradition into the [off-topic rules](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/604424) by requiring people to post no less than 3 dancing anime girls on birthday threads. This made its way to the osu!'s official rules up until 11 November 2019 when it was removed in a cleanup effort. As of writing the rule still stands in the off-topic subforum's rules. +On 9 June 2017 Ephemeral asserted slightly different version of the tradition into the [off-topic rules](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/604424) by requiring people to post no less than 3 dancing anime girls on birthday threads. This made its way to the osu!'s official rules [[7]](#references) up until 11 November 2019 when it was removed in a cleanup effort. As of writing the rule still stands in the off-topic subforum's rules. -#### Exile +### Exile Exile is an unofficial moderation concept introduced by Ephemeral in [the grand edict thread](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/604424) in response to people repeatedly spamming the subforum and creating otherwise annoying content. The exile system is enforced by moderation by removing any thread, and sometimes posts, by the person who is exiled. It serves as an indicator that the person is on the verge of being heavily sanctioned by more official means of moderation. -#### Denizen +### Denizen Since the off-topic subforum is composed of mostly the same regulars chatting among themselves in threads, everyone comes to know one another other. Those who stick around long enough to be considered regulars are called "denizen". While this term was first used by Ephemeral in [this thread](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/posts/1607086), it was not adopted by regulars until its popularization by the [OT!News thread series](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/577518). -#### OT Lore +### OT Lore -OT Lore is an effort started by abraker and perpetuated by other denizens to create a story narrative consisting out of various threads people in OT create. The culmination of this effort was compiled into the [OT!Chronicles](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/posts/6230570), and shaped a time period of OT which consisted of many improvised roleplay related threads. +OT Lore is an effort started by [abraker](https://osu.ppy.sh/users/4635891) and perpetuated by other denizens to create a story narrative consisting out of various threads people in OT create. The culmination of this effort was compiled into the [OT!Chronicles](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/posts/6230570), and shaped a time period of OT which consisted of many improvised roleplay related threads. -#### Thread Derails +### Thread Derails -Thread derailment is common in OT due to the definition of its nature - "Off-topic".This means a thread created with a topic in mind cannot be expected to remain on that topic. +Thread derailment is common in OT due to the definition of its nature - "Off-topic". This means a thread created with a topic in mind cannot be expected to remain on that topic. ## Notable threads Despite majority of OT being nonsense and misc content of unimportance, there are some notable mentions for people unfamiliar with the subforum to check out. -#### OT!News series +### OT!News series This series of threads is a great way to get a sense of the highs and lows of OT without seeing most of the nonsense. https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/posts/5942617 -#### OT COURT II: A-Breaking Laboratory & R.O.S.Q. vs Asht. Co +### OT COURT II: A-Breaking Laboratory & R.O.S.Q. vs Asht. Co OT Court is OT Lore material involving a detailed imitation of an actual trial. Its organization was improvised on the spot and, against all odds, it successfully lasted from beginning to end without lost of interest or being derailed. https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/posts/6956061 -#### Tad the Tadpole +### Tad the Tadpole This is a joke thread turned in OT Lore material. It is a great example of how denizens can create jokes threads about each other and then proceed to build narrative off the resulting interactions. It also demonstrate the unpredictable nature of how threads evolve and the nonsensical randomness that may come out of it. https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/posts/7126163 -#### Testing +### Testing OT Lore material that creates an interesting improvised narrative involving a mega-teletubby god that wrecks havoc upon OT and denizen efforts to destroy it. https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/posts/7549082 + + +# References + +1. [Discussion for making a new subforum for forum games](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/posts/80316) + +2. [ppy's announcement of the new subforum](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/posts/8814) + +3. [Mention of off-topic subforum's old name](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/posts/132900) + +4. [Mention how forum games were being trolled](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/posts/313614) + +5. [People's reactions to the off-topic subforum change (Thread 2)](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/posts/316732) + +6. [abraker's research regarding the dancing anime girl birthday thread tradition](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/1525770) + +7. [Aug 17 2022 capture of osu! official rules ](http://web.archive.org/web/20170817161329/http://osu.ppy.sh/help/wiki/Rules) + +8. [Pull request removing osu! off-topic rules from the rules page](https://github.com/ppy/osu-wiki/pull/2655) From a4975f9a099a32cb057d0b0fad7250735cd7ac54 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: abraker Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2022 00:27:07 -0500 Subject: [PATCH 04/11] Link Ephemeral's userpage --- wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/en.md | 14 ++++++-------- 1 file changed, 6 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-) diff --git a/wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/en.md b/wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/en.md index 3eb7a3a95b25..5339a241a502 100644 --- a/wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/en.md +++ b/wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/en.md @@ -6,7 +6,7 @@ The [General Discussion](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/7) subforum initially hosted any gameplay unrelated topic the people wanted to talk about. As forum games started polluting the subforum, people suggested making a separate subforum for "self perpetuating threads" [[1]](#references). On 19 February 2009 [peppy](/wiki/People/peppy) created the suggested subforum named *Forum Games/Random* [[2]](#references) [[3]](#references). -The new subforum created a distinction that *General Discussion* is to be used for serious discussions while *Forum Games/Random* is to be used for forum games and non-serious discussions. Given the nature of the *Forum Games/Random* subforum, people would often interrupt games hosted with random conversations [[4]](#references). On 2 February 2010, "Forum Games/Random" was renamed to *Off-Topic* and the *Forum Games* subforum was created [[4]](#references). +The new subforum created a distinction that *General Discussion* is to be used for serious discussions while *Forum Games/Random* is to be used for forum games and non-serious discussions. Given the nature of the *Forum Games/Random* subforum, people would often interrupt games hosted with random conversations [[4]](#references). On 2 February 2010, "Forum Games/Random" was renamed to *Off-Topic* and the *Forum Games* subforum was created [[5]](#references). Two more subforum would later be created: *Mafia* subforum on 14 September 2011, and *Surveys* subforum on 5 March 2014. @@ -16,7 +16,7 @@ Two more subforum would later be created: *Mafia* subforum on 14 September 2011, Given the nonsensical nature of OT, majority of threads and discussions carried out in the subforum are of very poor quality. Threads are rarely considered great, but when they are it is said to have reached valhalla. -The term was first used by Ephemeral in the [ITT: We're Dirty](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/40298) thread, and subsequently a few time after. Since then others people in the subforum have adopted the term. +The term was first used by [Ephemeral](https://osu.ppy.sh/users/102335) in the [ITT: We're Dirty](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/40298) thread, and subsequently a few time after. Since then others people in the subforum have adopted the term. ### Old Avatar Week @@ -26,16 +26,16 @@ Old Avatar Week as an annual event in celebration of the upcoming new year. On D People in the early off-topic days occasionally created threads dedicated to dancing anime girls. If a thread was bad then posting a few dancing anime girls made it better. When people started making threads about quitting OT and actually not quitting, people took that as attention grabbing and posted dancing anime girls to change thread's topic. Eventually posting dancing anime girls on any goodbye or welcome thread was a common thing to do, and thus solidifying as a tradition [[6]](#references). -On 9 June 2017 Ephemeral asserted slightly different version of the tradition into the [off-topic rules](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/604424) by requiring people to post no less than 3 dancing anime girls on birthday threads. This made its way to the osu!'s official rules [[7]](#references) up until 11 November 2019 when it was removed in a cleanup effort. As of writing the rule still stands in the off-topic subforum's rules. +On 9 June 2017 [Ephemeral](https://osu.ppy.sh/users/102335) asserted slightly different version of the tradition into the [off-topic rules](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/604424) by requiring people to post no less than 3 dancing anime girls on birthday threads. This made its way to the osu!'s official rules [[7]](#references) up until 11 November 2019 when it was removed in a [cleanup effort](https://github.com/ppy/osu-wiki/pull/2655). As of writing the rule still stands in the off-topic subforum's rules. ### Exile -Exile is an unofficial moderation concept introduced by Ephemeral in [the grand edict thread](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/604424) in response to people repeatedly spamming the subforum and creating otherwise annoying content. The exile system is enforced by moderation by removing any thread, and sometimes posts, by the person who is exiled. It serves as an indicator that the person is on the verge of being heavily sanctioned by more official means of moderation. +Exile is an unofficial moderation concept introduced by [Ephemeral](https://osu.ppy.sh/users/102335) in [the grand edict thread](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/604424) in response to people repeatedly spamming the subforum and creating otherwise annoying content. The exile system is enforced by moderation by removing any thread, and sometimes posts, by the person who is exiled. It serves as an indicator that the person is on the verge of being heavily sanctioned by more official means of moderation. ### Denizen -Since the off-topic subforum is composed of mostly the same regulars chatting among themselves in threads, everyone comes to know one another other. Those who stick around long enough to be considered regulars are called "denizen". While this term was first used by Ephemeral in [this thread](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/posts/1607086), it was not adopted by regulars until its popularization by the [OT!News thread series](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/577518). +Since the off-topic subforum is composed of mostly the same regulars chatting among themselves in threads, everyone comes to know one another other. Those who stick around long enough to be considered regulars are called "denizen". While this term was first used by [Ephemeral](https://osu.ppy.sh/users/102335) in [this thread](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/posts/1607086), it was not adopted by regulars until its popularization by the [OT!News thread series](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/577518). ### OT Lore @@ -85,10 +85,8 @@ https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/posts/7549082 4. [Mention how forum games were being trolled](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/posts/313614) -5. [People's reactions to the off-topic subforum change (Thread 2)](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/posts/316732) +5. [People's reactions to the off-topic subforum change](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/posts/316732) 6. [abraker's research regarding the dancing anime girl birthday thread tradition](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/1525770) 7. [Aug 17 2022 capture of osu! official rules ](http://web.archive.org/web/20170817161329/http://osu.ppy.sh/help/wiki/Rules) - -8. [Pull request removing osu! off-topic rules from the rules page](https://github.com/ppy/osu-wiki/pull/2655) From 96e40de8efbac9e82f6d486678cd9bf1bddcdb8b Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: abraker Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2022 00:28:23 -0500 Subject: [PATCH 05/11] Fix forum name being in quotes --- wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/en.md | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/en.md b/wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/en.md index 5339a241a502..b4ef8907ed44 100644 --- a/wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/en.md +++ b/wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/en.md @@ -6,7 +6,7 @@ The [General Discussion](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/7) subforum initially hosted any gameplay unrelated topic the people wanted to talk about. As forum games started polluting the subforum, people suggested making a separate subforum for "self perpetuating threads" [[1]](#references). On 19 February 2009 [peppy](/wiki/People/peppy) created the suggested subforum named *Forum Games/Random* [[2]](#references) [[3]](#references). -The new subforum created a distinction that *General Discussion* is to be used for serious discussions while *Forum Games/Random* is to be used for forum games and non-serious discussions. Given the nature of the *Forum Games/Random* subforum, people would often interrupt games hosted with random conversations [[4]](#references). On 2 February 2010, "Forum Games/Random" was renamed to *Off-Topic* and the *Forum Games* subforum was created [[5]](#references). +The new subforum created a distinction that *General Discussion* is to be used for serious discussions while *Forum Games/Random* is to be used for forum games and non-serious discussions. Given the nature of the *Forum Games/Random* subforum, people would often interrupt games hosted with random conversations [[4]](#references). On 2 February 2010, *Forum Games/Random* was renamed to *Off-Topic* and the *Forum Games* subforum was created [[5]](#references). Two more subforum would later be created: *Mafia* subforum on 14 September 2011, and *Surveys* subforum on 5 March 2014. From 8c674909e10a50176ff53d512936ce00d496c906 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: abraker95 Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2022 14:35:07 -0500 Subject: [PATCH 06/11] Apply suggestions from code review Co-authored-by: Walavouchey <36758269+Walavouchey@users.noreply.github.com> --- wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/en.md | 50 ++++++++++++---------------- 1 file changed, 22 insertions(+), 28 deletions(-) diff --git a/wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/en.md b/wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/en.md index b4ef8907ed44..560650b9af2b 100644 --- a/wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/en.md +++ b/wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/en.md @@ -1,53 +1,53 @@ # Off-Topic -[**Off-Topic**](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/52) is a forum meant for the community to have conversations without any particular topic in focus. Threads can often be random, change topic, and/or have multiple topics simultaneously. Topics can range anything from daily life, opinions about the game, role play, jokes and meta content, nonsense, or anything in between. +[**Off-Topic**](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/52) (abbreviated as ***OT***) is a forum meant for the community to have conversations without any particular topic in focus. Threads can often be random, change topic, and/or have multiple topics simultaneously. Topics can range anything from daily life, opinions about the game, role play, jokes and meta content, nonsense, or anything in between. ## History -The [General Discussion](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/7) subforum initially hosted any gameplay unrelated topic the people wanted to talk about. As forum games started polluting the subforum, people suggested making a separate subforum for "self perpetuating threads" [[1]](#references). On 19 February 2009 [peppy](/wiki/People/peppy) created the suggested subforum named *Forum Games/Random* [[2]](#references) [[3]](#references). +The [General Discussion](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/7) subforum initially hosted any topic unrelated to gameplay that people wanted to talk about. As forum games started polluting the subforum, people suggested making a separate subforum for "self perpetuating threads" [[1]](#references). On 19 February 2009, [peppy](/wiki/People/peppy) created the suggested subforum named *Forum Games/Random* [[2]](#references) [[3]](#references). The new subforum created a distinction that *General Discussion* is to be used for serious discussions while *Forum Games/Random* is to be used for forum games and non-serious discussions. Given the nature of the *Forum Games/Random* subforum, people would often interrupt games hosted with random conversations [[4]](#references). On 2 February 2010, *Forum Games/Random* was renamed to *Off-Topic* and the *Forum Games* subforum was created [[5]](#references). -Two more subforum would later be created: *Mafia* subforum on 14 September 2011, and *Surveys* subforum on 5 March 2014. +Two more subforums would later be created: *Mafia* on 14 September 2011, and *Surveys* on 5 March 2014. ## Traditions and culture ### Valhalla -Given the nonsensical nature of OT, majority of threads and discussions carried out in the subforum are of very poor quality. Threads are rarely considered great, but when they are it is said to have reached valhalla. +Given the nonsensical nature of OT, the majority of threads and discussions carried out therein are of very poor quality. Threads are rarely considered great, but when they are they are said to have reached valhalla. -The term was first used by [Ephemeral](https://osu.ppy.sh/users/102335) in the [ITT: We're Dirty](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/40298) thread, and subsequently a few time after. Since then others people in the subforum have adopted the term. +The term was first used by [Ephemeral](https://osu.ppy.sh/users/102335) in the [ITT: We're Dirty](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/40298) thread, and subsequently a few times after. Since then, other people in the subforum have adopted the term. ### Old Avatar Week -Old Avatar Week as an annual event in celebration of the upcoming new year. On December 28 of every year people would change their avatar to one of their older one for one week. This would remind OT regulars of an older time when the person had the avatar, giving a sense of reflection between current times and older times like the transition from the old year to the new year. +**Old Avatar Week** was an annual event in celebration of the upcoming new year. Every year on December 28, people would change their avatar to one of their older ones for one week. This would remind OT regulars of an older time when the person had the old avatar, giving a sense of reflection between current times and older times like the transition from the old year to the new year. ### Dancing anime girls -People in the early off-topic days occasionally created threads dedicated to dancing anime girls. If a thread was bad then posting a few dancing anime girls made it better. When people started making threads about quitting OT and actually not quitting, people took that as attention grabbing and posted dancing anime girls to change thread's topic. Eventually posting dancing anime girls on any goodbye or welcome thread was a common thing to do, and thus solidifying as a tradition [[6]](#references). +People in the early Off-Topic days occasionally created threads dedicated to dancing anime girls. If a thread was bad, then posting a few dancing anime girls made it better. When people started making threads about quitting OT and actually not quitting, people took that as attention-grabbing and posted dancing anime girls to change the thread's topic. Posting dancing anime girls on any goodbye or welcome thread eventually became the common thing to do, and thus solidifying it as tradition [[6]](#references). -On 9 June 2017 [Ephemeral](https://osu.ppy.sh/users/102335) asserted slightly different version of the tradition into the [off-topic rules](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/604424) by requiring people to post no less than 3 dancing anime girls on birthday threads. This made its way to the osu!'s official rules [[7]](#references) up until 11 November 2019 when it was removed in a [cleanup effort](https://github.com/ppy/osu-wiki/pull/2655). As of writing the rule still stands in the off-topic subforum's rules. +On 9 June 2017, [Ephemeral](https://osu.ppy.sh/users/102335) asserted a slightly different version of the tradition into the [Off-Topic rules](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/604424) by requiring people to post no less than 3 dancing anime girls on birthday threads. This made its way to osu!'s official rules [[7]](#references) up until 11 November 2019, when it was removed in a [cleanup effort](https://github.com/ppy/osu-wiki/pull/2655), but it still stands in the Off-Topic subforum's rules. ### Exile -Exile is an unofficial moderation concept introduced by [Ephemeral](https://osu.ppy.sh/users/102335) in [the grand edict thread](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/604424) in response to people repeatedly spamming the subforum and creating otherwise annoying content. The exile system is enforced by moderation by removing any thread, and sometimes posts, by the person who is exiled. It serves as an indicator that the person is on the verge of being heavily sanctioned by more official means of moderation. +**Exile** is an unofficial moderation concept introduced by [Ephemeral](https://osu.ppy.sh/users/102335) in [the grand edict thread](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/604424) in response to people repeatedly spamming the subforum and creating otherwise annoying content. The exile system is enforced by removing any threads, and sometimes posts, by the person who is exiled. It serves as an indicator that the person is on the verge of being heavily sanctioned by more official means of moderation. ### Denizen -Since the off-topic subforum is composed of mostly the same regulars chatting among themselves in threads, everyone comes to know one another other. Those who stick around long enough to be considered regulars are called "denizen". While this term was first used by [Ephemeral](https://osu.ppy.sh/users/102335) in [this thread](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/posts/1607086), it was not adopted by regulars until its popularization by the [OT!News thread series](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/577518). +Since the Off-Topic subforum is composed of mostly the same regulars chatting among themselves in threads, everyone comes to know one another. Those who stick around long enough to be considered regulars are called "**denizens**". While this term was first used by [Ephemeral](https://osu.ppy.sh/users/102335) in [this post](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/posts/1607086), it was not adopted by regulars until its popularisation by the [OT!News thread series](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/577518). ### OT Lore -OT Lore is an effort started by [abraker](https://osu.ppy.sh/users/4635891) and perpetuated by other denizens to create a story narrative consisting out of various threads people in OT create. The culmination of this effort was compiled into the [OT!Chronicles](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/posts/6230570), and shaped a time period of OT which consisted of many improvised roleplay related threads. +**OT Lore** is an effort started by [abraker](https://osu.ppy.sh/users/4635891) and perpetuated by other denizens to create an overarching narrative from the various threads people have created in OT. The culmination of this effort was compiled into the [OT!Chronicles](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/posts/6230570), which caused a time period in OT consisting of many improvised roleplay-related threads. -### Thread Derails +### Thread derailment -Thread derailment is common in OT due to the definition of its nature - "Off-topic". This means a thread created with a topic in mind cannot be expected to remain on that topic. +**Thread derailment** is a common occurrence in Off-Topic due to its nature of being "off-topic". This means that a thread created with a particular topic in mind cannot be expected to remain on that topic. ## Notable threads -Despite majority of OT being nonsense and misc content of unimportance, there are some notable mentions for people unfamiliar with the subforum to check out. +Despite the majority of OT being nonsense and miscellaneous content of unimportance, there are some notable threads that people unfamiliar with the subforum may find interesting. ### OT!News series @@ -57,36 +57,30 @@ https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/posts/5942617 ### OT COURT II: A-Breaking Laboratory & R.O.S.Q. vs Asht. Co -OT Court is OT Lore material involving a detailed imitation of an actual trial. Its organization was improvised on the spot and, against all odds, it successfully lasted from beginning to end without lost of interest or being derailed. +OT Court is OT Lore material involving a detailed imitation of an actual trial. Its organisation was improvised on the spot and, against all odds, it successfully lasted from beginning to end without loss of interest or being derailed. -https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/posts/6956061 + ### Tad the Tadpole This is a joke thread turned in OT Lore material. It is a great example of how denizens can create jokes threads about each other and then proceed to build narrative off the resulting interactions. It also demonstrate the unpredictable nature of how threads evolve and the nonsensical randomness that may come out of it. -https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/posts/7126163 + ### Testing OT Lore material that creates an interesting improvised narrative involving a mega-teletubby god that wrecks havoc upon OT and denizen efforts to destroy it. -https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/posts/7549082 + # References 1. [Discussion for making a new subforum for forum games](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/posts/80316) - -2. [ppy's announcement of the new subforum](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/posts/8814) - -3. [Mention of off-topic subforum's old name](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/posts/132900) - +2. [peppy's announcement of the new subforum](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/posts/8814) +3. [Mention of the Off-Topic subforum's old name](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/posts/132900) 4. [Mention how forum games were being trolled](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/posts/313614) - -5. [People's reactions to the off-topic subforum change](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/posts/316732) - +5. [People's reactions to the Off-Topic subforum change](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/posts/316732) 6. [abraker's research regarding the dancing anime girl birthday thread tradition](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/1525770) - -7. [Aug 17 2022 capture of osu! official rules ](http://web.archive.org/web/20170817161329/http://osu.ppy.sh/help/wiki/Rules) +7. [Aug 17 2022 capture of osu!'s official rules](http://web.archive.org/web/20170817161329/http://osu.ppy.sh/help/wiki/Rules) From e2a858bd0707ed48b093cc675b01b9dab7f71a1d Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: abraker Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2022 14:48:42 -0500 Subject: [PATCH 07/11] apply suggested changes --- wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/en.md | 4 ++-- 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/en.md b/wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/en.md index 560650b9af2b..046e5bae82ba 100644 --- a/wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/en.md +++ b/wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/en.md @@ -53,7 +53,7 @@ Despite the majority of OT being nonsense and miscellaneous content of unimporta This series of threads is a great way to get a sense of the highs and lows of OT without seeing most of the nonsense. -https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/posts/5942617 + ### OT COURT II: A-Breaking Laboratory & R.O.S.Q. vs Asht. Co @@ -63,7 +63,7 @@ OT Court is OT Lore material involving a detailed imitation of an actual trial. ### Tad the Tadpole -This is a joke thread turned in OT Lore material. It is a great example of how denizens can create jokes threads about each other and then proceed to build narrative off the resulting interactions. It also demonstrate the unpredictable nature of how threads evolve and the nonsensical randomness that may come out of it. +This is a joke thread that has developed into OT Lore material. It is a great example of how denizens can create jokes threads about each other and then proceed to build narrative off the resulting interactions. It also demonstrate the unpredictable nature of how threads evolve and the nonsensical randomness that may come out of it. From 6e36b0821165887940bd79fbcde371fab51739da Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Walavouchey <36758269+Walavouchey@users.noreply.github.com> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2022 21:24:10 +0100 Subject: [PATCH 08/11] make reference style consistent with #4911 --- wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/en.md | 10 ++++++---- 1 file changed, 6 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-) diff --git a/wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/en.md b/wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/en.md index 046e5bae82ba..b66f2812202a 100644 --- a/wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/en.md +++ b/wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/en.md @@ -4,9 +4,9 @@ ## History -The [General Discussion](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/7) subforum initially hosted any topic unrelated to gameplay that people wanted to talk about. As forum games started polluting the subforum, people suggested making a separate subforum for "self perpetuating threads" [[1]](#references). On 19 February 2009, [peppy](/wiki/People/peppy) created the suggested subforum named *Forum Games/Random* [[2]](#references) [[3]](#references). +The [General Discussion](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/7) subforum initially hosted any topic unrelated to gameplay that people wanted to talk about. As forum games started polluting the subforum, people suggested making a separate subforum for "self perpetuating threads" [[1]][r]. On 19 February 2009, [peppy](/wiki/People/peppy) created the suggested subforum named *Forum Games/Random* [[2]][r] [[3]][r]. -The new subforum created a distinction that *General Discussion* is to be used for serious discussions while *Forum Games/Random* is to be used for forum games and non-serious discussions. Given the nature of the *Forum Games/Random* subforum, people would often interrupt games hosted with random conversations [[4]](#references). On 2 February 2010, *Forum Games/Random* was renamed to *Off-Topic* and the *Forum Games* subforum was created [[5]](#references). +The new subforum created a distinction that *General Discussion* is to be used for serious discussions while *Forum Games/Random* is to be used for forum games and non-serious discussions. Given the nature of the *Forum Games/Random* subforum, people would often interrupt games hosted with random conversations [[4]][r]. On 2 February 2010, *Forum Games/Random* was renamed to *Off-Topic* and the *Forum Games* subforum was created [[5]][r]. Two more subforums would later be created: *Mafia* on 14 September 2011, and *Surveys* on 5 March 2014. @@ -24,9 +24,9 @@ The term was first used by [Ephemeral](https://osu.ppy.sh/users/102335) in the [ ### Dancing anime girls -People in the early Off-Topic days occasionally created threads dedicated to dancing anime girls. If a thread was bad, then posting a few dancing anime girls made it better. When people started making threads about quitting OT and actually not quitting, people took that as attention-grabbing and posted dancing anime girls to change the thread's topic. Posting dancing anime girls on any goodbye or welcome thread eventually became the common thing to do, and thus solidifying it as tradition [[6]](#references). +People in the early Off-Topic days occasionally created threads dedicated to dancing anime girls. If a thread was bad, then posting a few dancing anime girls made it better. When people started making threads about quitting OT and actually not quitting, people took that as attention-grabbing and posted dancing anime girls to change the thread's topic. Posting dancing anime girls on any goodbye or welcome thread eventually became the common thing to do, and thus solidifying it as tradition [[6]][r]. -On 9 June 2017, [Ephemeral](https://osu.ppy.sh/users/102335) asserted a slightly different version of the tradition into the [Off-Topic rules](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/604424) by requiring people to post no less than 3 dancing anime girls on birthday threads. This made its way to osu!'s official rules [[7]](#references) up until 11 November 2019, when it was removed in a [cleanup effort](https://github.com/ppy/osu-wiki/pull/2655), but it still stands in the Off-Topic subforum's rules. +On 9 June 2017, [Ephemeral](https://osu.ppy.sh/users/102335) asserted a slightly different version of the tradition into the [Off-Topic rules](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/604424) by requiring people to post no less than 3 dancing anime girls on birthday threads. This made its way to osu!'s official rules [[7]][r] up until 11 November 2019, when it was removed in a [cleanup effort](https://github.com/ppy/osu-wiki/pull/2655), but it still stands in the Off-Topic subforum's rules. ### Exile @@ -84,3 +84,5 @@ OT Lore material that creates an interesting improvised narrative involving a me 5. [People's reactions to the Off-Topic subforum change](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/posts/316732) 6. [abraker's research regarding the dancing anime girl birthday thread tradition](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/1525770) 7. [Aug 17 2022 capture of osu!'s official rules](http://web.archive.org/web/20170817161329/http://osu.ppy.sh/help/wiki/Rules) + +[r]: #references From 01e60e09fa41d8b13df52923280b5db49b88b6cd Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Walavouchey <36758269+Walavouchey@users.noreply.github.com> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2022 21:27:49 +0100 Subject: [PATCH 09/11] satisfy ci --- wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/en.md | 5 +---- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 4 deletions(-) diff --git a/wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/en.md b/wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/en.md index b66f2812202a..f4ecf050378b 100644 --- a/wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/en.md +++ b/wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/en.md @@ -28,7 +28,6 @@ People in the early Off-Topic days occasionally created threads dedicated to dan On 9 June 2017, [Ephemeral](https://osu.ppy.sh/users/102335) asserted a slightly different version of the tradition into the [Off-Topic rules](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/604424) by requiring people to post no less than 3 dancing anime girls on birthday threads. This made its way to osu!'s official rules [[7]][r] up until 11 November 2019, when it was removed in a [cleanup effort](https://github.com/ppy/osu-wiki/pull/2655), but it still stands in the Off-Topic subforum's rules. - ### Exile **Exile** is an unofficial moderation concept introduced by [Ephemeral](https://osu.ppy.sh/users/102335) in [the grand edict thread](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/604424) in response to people repeatedly spamming the subforum and creating otherwise annoying content. The exile system is enforced by removing any threads, and sometimes posts, by the person who is exiled. It serves as an indicator that the person is on the verge of being heavily sanctioned by more official means of moderation. @@ -67,15 +66,13 @@ This is a joke thread that has developed into OT Lore material. It is a great ex - ### Testing OT Lore material that creates an interesting improvised narrative involving a mega-teletubby god that wrecks havoc upon OT and denizen efforts to destroy it. - -# References +## References 1. [Discussion for making a new subforum for forum games](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/posts/80316) 2. [peppy's announcement of the new subforum](https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/posts/8814) From 85d88ac0e40c5326ae7e716381361218db56afb8 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: abraker Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2022 15:29:16 -0500 Subject: [PATCH 10/11] Apply suggestion from review --- wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/en.md | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/en.md b/wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/en.md index f4ecf050378b..613be5b0330b 100644 --- a/wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/en.md +++ b/wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/en.md @@ -68,7 +68,7 @@ This is a joke thread that has developed into OT Lore material. It is a great ex ### Testing -OT Lore material that creates an interesting improvised narrative involving a mega-teletubby god that wrecks havoc upon OT and denizen efforts to destroy it. +This is one of several role-playing threads created as a result of OT Lore, that creates an interesting improvised narrative involving a mega-teletubby god that wrecks havoc upon OT and denizen efforts to destroy it. From 6b2b759e0e7e40b9cbd10756b56575a8e9fbe8b2 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Walavouchey <36758269+Walavouchey@users.noreply.github.com> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2022 23:15:16 +0100 Subject: [PATCH 11/11] outdate translations --- wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/fr.md | 2 ++ wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/zh-tw.md | 2 ++ 2 files changed, 4 insertions(+) diff --git a/wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/fr.md b/wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/fr.md index b71276edc568..dacd53a858a3 100644 --- a/wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/fr.md +++ b/wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/fr.md @@ -1,4 +1,6 @@ --- +outdated: true +outdated_since: d2b98adabd345f841cb5cdddc15b281fe79c2908 stub: true --- diff --git a/wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/zh-tw.md b/wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/zh-tw.md index b2270e37f614..ff6fe392eeb0 100644 --- a/wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/zh-tw.md +++ b/wiki/Community/Forum/Off-Topic/zh-tw.md @@ -1,4 +1,6 @@ --- +outdated: true +outdated_since: d2b98adabd345f841cb5cdddc15b281fe79c2908 stub: true no_native_review: true ---