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| -title: Joining Discord and Matrix |
| 3 | +title: Joining Discourse and Discord |
4 | 4 | nav_order: 5
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5 | 5 | parent: 'StashDB'
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6 | 6 | grand_parent: FAQ / Getting Started
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| -# Joining Discord and Matrix |
| 9 | +# Joining Discourse and Discord |
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11 | 11 | {: .important }
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| -**Necessary for gaining edit access to StashDB, read below for details.** |
| 12 | +**Discourse is required for all StashDB editors, Discord is optional.** |
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| -All members of Stash's Discord and Matrix are expected to follow the servers' rules. These rules exist to foster a respectful community and ensure the longevity of the Stash project. The Discord rules are listed in our [**#readme** channel](https://discord.com/channels/559159668438728723/819802026988273674){:target="_blank"} and the Matrix rules are listed in our [Stash space](https://matrix.to/#/#stashapp:unredacted.org){:target="_blank"}. |
| 16 | +All members of Stash's Discourse and Discord are expected to follow the servers' rules. These rules exist to foster a respectful community and ensure the longevity of the Stash project. The Discourse rules are listed in our [Community Guidelines](https://discourse.stashapp.cc/guidelines){:target="_blank"} and the Discord rules are listed in our [**#readme** channel](https://discord.com/channels/559159668438728723/819802026988273674/1195527590304301177){:target="_blank"}. |
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| -Please note, you will need to join at least one of these servers if you would like to [contribute more than just hashes to StashDB]({{ site.baseurl }}/docs/faq_getting-started/stashdb/contributing-to-stashdb/). Most of the editors are using Discord so that's likely the most convenient option. All active editors are required to be reachable through one or the other. If there is an issue with your contributions and we cannot get in touch with you to address them, you will risk [losing your edit access]({{ site.baseurl }}/docs/faq_getting-started/edits/moderation-enforcement/). |
| 18 | +Please note, you will need to join the Discourse forum if you would like to [contribute more than just hashes to StashDB]({{ site.baseurl }}/docs/faq_getting-started/stashdb/contributing-to-stashdb/). All active editors are required to be reachable through Discourse. If there is an issue with your contributions and we cannot get in touch with you to address them, you will risk [losing your edit access]({{ site.baseurl }}/docs/faq_getting-started/edits/moderation-enforcement/). |
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| -## Discord |
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| -The Stash Discord server is your best bet for finding someone to help you with anything relating to Stash, Stash-Box, and StashDB. It has far more members than the Matrix space, but we have a bot that allows those Matrix users to communicate with users on Discord (see details below). That bot has limitations and can be buggy at times, so using Discord instead will likely be a smoother experience. |
| 20 | +## Discourse |
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| -[Click here to join our Discord server.](https://discord.gg/2TsNFKt){:target="_blank"} |
| 22 | +Our Discourse forum is the official home for support, feature requests, and discussions about Stash and Stash-related projects. It is completely managed and self-hosted by the stashapp team. It is also the primary method for StashDB editors, mods, and admins to communicate with each other. As a result, all [StashDB contributors]({{ site.baseurl }}/docs/faq_getting-started/stashdb/contributing-to-stashdb/) are required to create a Discourse account. |
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| -## Matrix |
| 24 | +[Click here to join our Discourse forums.](https://discourse.stashapp.cc/signup){:target="_blank"} |
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| -Matrix is a federated alternative to Discord. If you are unfamiliar with it, [this page explains in more detail what Matrix is](https://docs.stashapp.cc/matrix/){:target="_blank"}. Some users prefer to use Matrix to avoid the privacy concerns and additional restrictions inherent to Discord. |
| 26 | +## Discord |
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| -Many of Stash's rooms on Matrix are marked as "bridged". Posts in these Matrix rooms will be automatically mirrored in their equivalent channel on Discord and vice versa. That means the smaller number of Matrix users can communicate with the larger number of users on Discord, but the bot his its own limitations and bugs. It also means those Matrix rooms are required to follow the same restrictions enforced by Discord. However, we also have a room named [**General (unbridged)**](https://matrix.to/#/#stash-general-unbridged:unredacted.org) that is exclusive to Matrix and outside of Discord's influence. |
| 28 | +The Stash Discord server is the longest-running space for the community to discuss Stash, Stash-Box, and StashDB. It has far more members than the Discourse as a result, but the stashapp developers and staff have shifted most of their focus towards the forums. [StashDB contributors]({{ site.baseurl }}/docs/faq_getting-started/stashdb/contributing-to-stashdb/) are no longer required to have a Discord account. |
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| -[Click here to join our Matrix space.](https://matrix.to/#/#stashapp:unredacted.org){:target="_blank"} |
| 30 | +[Click here to join our Discord server.](https://discord.gg/2TsNFKt){:target="_blank"} |
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