Have WebRTC card working, Anyone know how to use Camera record to record referencing WebRTC

[MyPiLife]

Have RTSP working great in WebRTC card. This is a work around from using the camera generic integration to get around the extended delay in keeping the stream live open. within the MQTT integration. Think it time outs in about 3/4 minutes. WebRTC does it in seconds.
Issue is how does one go about now to use an automation with this. There are no camera entity to use within the camera record action as we are no longer using the generic camera integration? The call is on a ding action to record 5 or 10 seconds using WebRTC stream or RTSP directly.

Any examples or a steer in the right direction appreciated. Been banging my head on this. Might not be possible but that could be me as I'm fairly new on this front.
Ta

[tsightler]

You'll have to have your automation execute ffmpeg directly to record from the RTSP stream.

[MyPiLife]

Wow, thanks for the quick response. Really appreciate it. Was looking at ffmpeg but not sure if that was the route to go. Sounds like it. I'll google some examples on how best to do that. Thanks again for the steer.

[tsightler]

Unfortunately, this has really always been the case since any automation usign camera record would always use stream and keep the stream alive. Things just became worse a few months ago when HA integrated WebRTC natively into HA, but, for whatever reason, still trigger both the stream and WebRTC connection. I've done everything I can to convince the HA devs to shorten the timeout by or, at a minimum, make the timeout configurable, but they don't seem to care about this issue, so I've given up.

Using WebRTC and ffmpeg to directly read from the stream is the best workaround. I should probably update the docs to use this method, but I just haven't had time.

Honestly, I'll probably completely remove live streaming support in the next major version of ring-mqtt, because go2rtc now has native support for Ring cameras, so it's not really needed. I user can just setup Ring cameras in the go2rtc config, and use RTSP config for recording and native go2rtc WebRTC for streaming, no ring-mqtt needed for that.

[MyPiLife]

Thanks for the all the work and effort. Was not aware you can setup ring camera in the go2rtc config. Not sure how that would even be done in go2rtc, I assume my WebRTC from HACS is using that as the backend as I see the go2rtc.yaml file but sounds like a different integration required. A little to over my head at the mo so appreciate having that in ring-mqtt. Who knew this would take me down the rabbit hole. To be honest almost gave up. I'll try that ffmpeg option in the integration. :) - Feel I'm at the cusp of sorting a workable solution, lets hope.
I assume you have a ring camera and that you have a ding and motion automation setup. If you happy enough to share your YAML code it would help to get an idea usage and thoughts on it but if not at least I can tinker with my search results on good old google or brave. Thanks again

[MyPiLife]

If anyone else have the issue I faced. You can just add the RTSP as ffmpeg camera in HA. It brings this in as an entity and from there you can use the automatons like camera.snap etc.

camera:

• platform: ffmpeg
  input: rtsp://172.22.0.2:8554/90486c78e467_live
  extra_arguments: -qscale:v 1

Only issue is with imagine quality is not the greatest on the snapshot. Usable. Anyone got any ideas of improving this or its a limit of the RTSP stream rather the a switch or something with ffmpeg?