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In JSON? If we move to e.g. HDF5 then there the arrays will be a real distinct data type.
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This part discusses the data model internal to OPTIMADE itself, where we (for now) only formally need list in lists (but we say here ~"lets use the term 'arrays' for lists in lists"). How this data model is mapped onto JSON types is first described in section 4.2, where indeed lists -> JSON lists. A future section discussing HDF5, or for that matter XML, parquet, etc., would define how these types are mapped into native data types. It would be valid for HDF5 to say that lists in lists (in lists...) should be mapped to the HDF5 array format.
If you ask "why don't we just adopt arrays as a fundamental data type and say that in JSON arrays map to lists in lists", I think that would be a valid change (but not in this PR).
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I would suggest using "list" instead of "array" everywhere, as in the specification "list" is defined as data type, whereas "array" is used much less often and mostly as a synonym of "list".
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You are right, good catch. Array should almost everywhere be replaced by list. Array should only be kept when we explicitly refer to JSON:API output arrays.
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After thinking about this, I don't find a good way to handle this without defining the term 'array' to be a general word for a list or a structure of nested lists. (IMO "Multidimensional lists" is far worse as a term.) So, I've pushed a commit that does this.
(Note: 'resolve' this conversation if you are happy with the fix, otherwise comment below).
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I'll leave it up to somebody more experienced in the protocol to resolve this.
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I gather that "small" and "large" have a techncial meaning here (wrt to the transmission).
Do you have any kind of annotation trick to makes this clearer?
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I like this better, yes. Given that only large has a meaning, it's better to remove small, as you did.
2 minor suggestions:
The protocol for large property values
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I realize that the way these comments chop up the text can make it a bit difficult to see the context, but the link you ask for is already right on the row before this line (numbered 616 right now).
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Above you used the term "array axis". I'd use the same term here, as with "index" idk whether you mean the dimension or a slice along a dimension.
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I'm not sure what you mean here, can you use the GitHub suggest edit feature to show a suggestion? (Also, the discussion of terminology with regards to indices and axes may have been clarified by a discussion we had last web meet?)
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I'd need a refresher there, sorry.
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I'm confused, this doesn't read cleanly to me in the context it appears. The first sentence in the suggestion isn't even a complete sentence?
The context here is that we are in the general text at the top of the section trying to outline what this feature is and how it is used. The sentence right now is just trying to communicate that the metadata property array_axis is one of the essential mechanisms of the protocol.
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So, these are very different modes of querying. Typically, a client will have to query them in separate stages.
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I'm not sure what you mean here: these fields are included as information from the server to the client to provide information related to slicing; so I'm not sure what the two different "modes" you refer to, or how you from what is written here or what stages you mean. Maybe you can clarify a bit?
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With 2 query modes, I meant:
Perhaps mode 1 could be split into 1.1 (sliceable metadata implicit requested) and 1.2 (sliceable metadata explicitly requested).
Anyhow, I was just asking for a clearer distinction between which query mode is covered where. Subtitles could work? Maybe I highlighted the wrong lines, but that would underscore my point.
Lastly, my 2nd question was about the responses when a query asks for both schema metadata and regular data.
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This one was kinda though to get on the first read. Maybe refer to the example below.
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I think this would be clearer when presented as 2 bulletpoints in the format query: response.
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I think we need a suggested edit here to understand the format you are after.
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May the client request multiple (different) slices from the same array axis in the same query?
E.g.
property_slices=[dim_frames:3:37:5,dim_frames:49:105:2]
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This is clarified in "REQUIRED keys". A link suffices then.
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In the present version (which may have changed since you commented) I think this information is quite clear in the text right below.
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It's actually already explaiend that
:val:null
refers to the default value, and that it should be returned unless a specified value was used.From how I understood it, the same applies to the
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Is this then equivalent to
property_ranges=[<first_dim>:::, ...]
?I.e. should this return the full property or leave it out?
This might be defined somewhere else. If so, pls refer to that section.
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The query parameter not being included means the client isn't trying to use this protocol; so I think the natural interpretation is that "everything works as usual without the slices protocol". I guess that could be clarified somewhere, but I'm not sure exactly where.
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Minor style changes to make the phrase clearer:
dim_frames
anddim_sites
.the frames with indexes 0, 10, 20, 30, ..., 990
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I think this addresses @ndaelman-hu suggestions, except for removing the explanation in the last parenthesis, which from our discussions on the workshop I do think still is necessary to be completely clear.
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Her, you lost me
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@ndaelman-hu is this more clear?: