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Remove block name if custom name is available in inspector controls #65641

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@getdave getdave commented Sep 25, 2024

What?

Removes the block's name (e.g. Group) from the inspector controls if a custom name is defined.

Why?

Suggested by @richtabor in #65398 (comment)

How?

Change code.

Testing Instructions

  • Create x2 Group blocks
  • Rename the first Group block with a custom name.
  • Check that only the custom name/block name is shown in the block's inspector controls based on whether the block has/hasn't a custom name.

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@getdave getdave added [Type] Bug An existing feature does not function as intended [Feature] Inspector Controls The interface showing block settings and the controls available for each block labels Sep 25, 2024
@getdave getdave self-assigned this Sep 25, 2024
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I wonder if it makes sense to include the description when what the block has a custom name. It can make for clunky reading:

Screenshot 2024-09-25 at 11 52 59

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getdave commented Sep 25, 2024

I'm just going to flag that I'm not sure if there might be accessibility concerns that we should consider here for non-sighted users who may lack the ability to perceive the nature of this block (i.e. a Group block) without the affordances offered by:

  • the actual name of the block (i.e. Group)
  • some description of the block

I wonder if @jeryj can offer any insight here?

I'm wondering whether removing all context about the block from this panel is actually helping our users. It might look "cleaner" but potentially at the cost of adding confusion.

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I re-read #53735, and it looks like the block renaming feature was introduced to make blocks easier to distinguish/find in the List View.

If only the custom block name was shown in the inspector control, it would feel less relevant in the Settings and Styles panels below.

Another reason is that in Figma for example, the Layers panel shows the custom name, but the design panel shows the original component name:

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Therefore, I lean towards keeping it the way it is.

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Yes.

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What if we add the block name before the description so text here

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would read:

Client testimonial
Group block. Gather blocks in a container.

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jeryj commented Sep 25, 2024

It's confusing to me to rename the sidebar settings with the renamed section. I would rather not put the custom name in the inspector controls. In the list view, the custom name is helpful because it helps you identify which item you want to select. You can't select anything via the inspector, so I think it should remain Group Block so it's an accurate representation of what you have selected.

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I think @jeryj has a point - and actually seeing the block description under block name is quite weird.

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getdave commented Sep 26, 2024

Thinking back to when we introduced renaming, I'm sure we had a similar discussion. I cannot find it though as Github appears to have buried it.

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Seeing the custom name in the Inspector can provide helpful context when List view is closed. Technically the icon should communicate the block type but I appreciate that's not a great affordance currently in term of a11y, maybe a tooltip would help?

Block descriptions are generic... if the block has a custom name it's generally no longer generic and the description can be confusing. I'd be tempted to hide it.

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@jameskoster @richtabor does this suggestion have any downsides?

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getdave commented Sep 27, 2024

TBH @draganescu's suggestion seems like the best compromise.

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richtabor commented Sep 30, 2024

@jameskoster @richtabor does this suggestion have any downsides?

Just makes it seem more complicated than it needs to be.

For example, the heading block would read:

"Heading block. Introduce new sections and organize content to help visitors (and search engines) understand the structure of your content."

I don't think the description should change based on if you have a custom block name or not, and it would be duplicative to have a Heading label above the description, then lead with "Heading block.".

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I don't think the description should change based on if you have a custom block name or not

Well, that is a trade off compared to not having the block type shown anywhere in the inspector and having to intuit from the block icon or from opening the list view what kind of block you have selected.

it would be duplicative to have a Heading label above the description, then lead with "Heading block.".

There is no duplication? This PR removes the block type from the title of the panel, to leave the title of the panel exclusively to the block name, manually set by the user.

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Just my opinion, but I find that generic block descriptions combined with specific (custom) block names often leads to confusing and unclear reading. I don't have a strong preference in any direction but could see one of the following working:

  1. Show custom block name, hide description. Add tooltip to block icon making it possible to understand block type.
  2. Do not show custom block name in the Inspector.
  3. Find another way to show custom block names in the Inspector, maybe something similar to how we mark special pages in the document inspector:
Screenshot 2024-09-30 at 13 20 00

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Between all options I think the last suggestion from @jameskoster is the best: a label that happens to also look like a label.

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t-hamano commented Oct 1, 2024

maybe something similar to how we mark special pages in the document inspector:

Perhaps it will look something like this?

Paragraph Table of contents
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Or are the default and custom block names reversed?

Paragraph Table of contents
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