Community Review: BEP042 - Electromyography (EMG) #2219
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Hi, I have a comment about the following part in "Describing Sensor Locations" section. "placement information is given either in the EMGPlacementSchemeDescription field of *_emg.json (when the placement approach is the same for all sensors), or in the placement_description column of *_channels.tsv (when the placement approach varied across sensors)." I think it's good that the spec considers the case where different channels have different locations but having this information saved in either of the two separate files may be error-prone. What do you think of having a reserved keyword like "mixed" in the emg.json in the latter case, or saving the information in channels.tsv in both cases so that the information is consistently found in the same place? |
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Hi, We have attempted to BIDSify a few EMG datasets while adhering to the CEDE guidelines (i.e., a series of consensus papers from the International Society of Electromyography and Kinesiology; see, for example, https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1050641122000992). Two items recommended for reporting in the CEDE guidelines but missing within the BIDS specification are (i) pre-amplification and (ii) gain. Furthermore, I recall that earlier versions of the BIDS-EMG examples included EMGElectrodeGroups, which enabled specifying properties such as "InterelectrodeDistance" or "ElectrodeMaterial" for heterogeneous EMG sensors / grids. Is that still the intended way of reporting such metadata, or where should the details on multiple, potentially heterogeneous electrodes be reported? |
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Hi team, thank you for working on extending BIDS for electromyography data! I've reviewed this proposal in comparison with the existing motion BIDS specification, and I have a few suggestions to ensure consistency: Channel Types and Descriptions
Synchronization with Other ModalitiesI suggest adding a paragraph similar to the motion spec regarding synchronization, perhaps something like: "When EMG recordings are used alongside other BIDS modalities (such as EEG or motion) and recordings should be interpreted together, it is advised to define how recordings are synchronized. The RECOMMENDED way to do so is to use the acquisition time of the first data point of recordings and to store this information in the Additional Suggestions
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Hi BEP042 team, this is really impressive, very clear and logical, and i really don't have any comments - I am not sufficiently BIDS-ified myself to spot any problems here, not even any typos ;-) I work in the TMS field, and EMG methods over here are often under-specified, sometimes only the muscle name is given. It would be great if TMS-EMG folk come to use BEP042 - I will certainly try to make that happen. There is a BEP037 proposal for brain stimulation methods underway (NIBS-BIDS) - many of these users record EMG as dependent variables. My only question: my understanding is that the thanks again! |
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Thank you all for your thoughtful reviews. We will be rereading carefully over the next few weeks to be sure that all concerns are addressed. If necessary, we will reach out to individual reviewers for further discussion. |
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We are pleased to announce the community review period for BIDS Extension Proposal (BEP) 042!
BEP042 extends the BIDS standard to include electromyography recordings.
The draft specification may be found at: https://bids-specification--1998.org.readthedocs.build/en/1998/, and the eye-tracking specification may be found in the Electromyography section.
The proposed changes may be found at #1998. To view the source difference, click the Files changed tab.
Example datasets may be found at:
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