load add image-load, support podman load #3109

helen-frank · 2023-02-23T09:43:29Z

/kind feature

Kind load add command image-load, extension supports podman load

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aojea · 2023-02-23T10:19:23Z

how is this different than current one that is not working in podman because of podman limitations to load images?

#3105

helen-frank · 2023-02-23T10:38:31Z

how is this different than current one that is not working in podman because of podman limitations to load images?

#3105

My current implementation is feasible, I have tested it, and this problem is also found by wanting to use kwok on the kind-podman

podman pull docker.io/kindest/node:v1.25.0                                                                                                                                                                     ─╯
Trying to pull docker.io/kindest/node:v1.25.0...
Getting image source signatures
Copying blob 9602ae1e967a done
Copying blob 405bac4f49ab done
Copying config d3da246e12 done
Writing manifest to image destination
Storing signatures
d3da246e125a0644c137ffd5ecaea7658d4875581a82891b955b319aa6341d11
╭─   ~                                                                                                                                                            took  40s with root@10-29-16-89 at  10:32:24 ─╮
╰─❯ podman version                                                                                                                                                                                                 ─╯
Version:      3.4.4
API Version:  3.4.4
Go Version:   go1.17.3
Built:        Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
OS/Arch:      linux/amd64
╭─   ~                                                                                                                                                                       with root@10-29-16-89 at  10:32:29 ─╮
╰─❯ podman ps                                                                                                                                                                                                      ─╯
CONTAINER ID  IMAGE                                                                                           COMMAND     CREATED         STATUS             PORTS                        NAMES
508321ce6a0f  docker.io/kindest/node@sha256:f52781bc0d7a19fb6c405c2af83abfeb311f130707a0e219175677e366cc45d1              7 days ago      Up 2 days ago                                   multi-node-worker2
49270a353240  docker.io/kindest/node@sha256:f52781bc0d7a19fb6c405c2af83abfeb311f130707a0e219175677e366cc45d1              7 days ago      Up 2 days ago                                   multi-node-worker
c9f635cd7edd  docker.io/kindest/node@sha256:f52781bc0d7a19fb6c405c2af83abfeb311f130707a0e219175677e366cc45d1              7 days ago      Up 2 days ago      10.29.16.89:41201->6443/tcp  multi-node-control-plane
a67d9f6f893b  docker.io/kindest/node:v1.26.0                                                                              11 minutes ago  Up 11 minutes ago  0.0.0.0:39493->6443/tcp      kwok-m1-control-plane
╭─   ~                                                                                                                                                                       with root@10-29-16-89 at  10:32:41 ─╮
╰─❯ kind load image-load --name kwok-m1 docker.io/kindest/node:v1.25.0                                                                                                                                             ─╯
enabling experimental podman provider
Image: "docker.io/kindest/node:v1.25.0" with ID "d3da246e125a0644c137ffd5ecaea7658d4875581a82891b955b319aa6341d11" not yet present on node "kwok-m1-control-plane", loading...
╭─   ~                                                                                                                                                            took  50s with root@10-29-16-89 at  10:33:57 ─╮
╰─❯ podman exec a67d9f6f893b crictl images ls | grep "docker.io/kindest/node"                                                                                                                                      ─╯
docker.io/kindest/node                     v1.25.0              d3da246e125a0       875MB

aojea · 2023-02-23T10:44:24Z

yeah, I was curious what is the difference with current docker-image command that makes this works and the other not 😄

helen-frank · 2023-02-23T11:00:33Z

yeah, I was curious what is the difference with current docker-image command that makes this works and the other not 😄

In fact, the difference between image-load and docker-image is whether the runtime is variable or not

The naming of docker-image prevents me from writing this logic to the boot

It's hard to predict how much of an impact image-load would have if it replaced docker-image

So I chose to create a new command, preferably using image-load and removing docker-image if I could.

aojea · 2023-02-23T11:25:07Z

In fact, the difference between image-load and docker-image is whether the runtime is variable or not

do you mean that podman has changed something and now the docker-imagecommand works with podman too?

if you do kind load docker-image --name kwok-m1 docker.io/kindest/node:v1.25.0 does it work too?
we have a bug open for a long time because it didn't worked with podman

aojea · 2023-02-23T11:54:29Z

pkg/cmd/kind/load/image-load/image-load.go

+		if _, err := osexec.LookPath("podman"); err != nil {
+			return "", err
+		}
+		return "podman", nil


is this the difference?

because this was not working before #2760

I tried to use docker-image in the form of soft links, and I succeeded.

❯ ln -s /usr/bin/podman /usr/bin/docker ❯ kind load docker-image --name kwok-m1 docker.io/kindest/node:v1.24.0 enabling experimental podman provider Image: "docker.io/kindest/node:v1.24.0" with ID "a7d31d743aca47d4cdb00d6f61ba58b2423a1ead57dffa234f8d4f402f0a049d" not yet present on node "kwok-m1-control-plane", loading... ❯ podman exec a67d9f6f893b crictl images ls | grep "docker.io/kindest/node" docker.io/kindest/node v1.24.0 a7d31d743aca4 915MB docker.io/kindest/node v1.25.0 d3da246e125a0 875MB

❯ cat /etc/os-release PRETTY_NAME="Ubuntu 22.04.2 LTS" NAME="Ubuntu" VERSION_ID="22.04" VERSION="22.04.2 LTS (Jammy Jellyfish)" VERSION_CODENAME=jammy ID=ubuntu ID_LIKE=debian HOME_URL="https://www.ubuntu.com/" SUPPORT_URL="https://help.ubuntu.com/" BUG_REPORT_URL="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/" PRIVACY_POLICY_URL="https://www.ubuntu.com/legal/terms-and-policies/privacy-policy" UBUNTU_CODENAME=jammy

is this the difference?

Yeah, simple and effective, I didn't find podman has the problem of preventing ctr from writing.

something seems to have changed in podman or my memory is confused 😄

@BenTheElder it seems we can have the common load-image with no effort

helen-frank · 2023-03-04T14:43:38Z

@aojea Can you give me an ok-to-test label?
Or can we continue to push.

aojea · 2023-03-04T18:05:50Z

@aojea Can you give me an ok-to-test label?

/ok-to-test

helen-frank · 2023-03-06T01:26:31Z

/retest

helen-frank · 2023-03-06T14:11:37Z

Can we continue?😀 @aojea @danderson @BenTheElder
First of all, it can be confirmed that image-load is already available on my podman environment.
What needs to be pushed forward in the future is which plan to adopt.

use image-load
use image-load and delete docker-image
Code ability to be combined into docker-image (not recommended, will lead to misunderstanding)

BenTheElder · 2023-03-06T20:31:23Z

erm, Please see: #2038, we should be discussing approaches to new features in the feature issues, per our contributing docs. https://kind.sigs.k8s.io/docs/contributing/getting-started/#4-reaching-out

I'm sorry, but all hands on deck with Keeping the Kubernetes project funded right now (See SIG K8s Infra).
I will not be spending much time reviewing kind features until we have a plan to sustain the Kubernetes organization.

The next thing up for the kind project is a release with all the existing bug fixes, when @aojea gets time.

We need to get the API right before introducing a new command, people will begin depending on it immediately.

If podman is actually working drop-in compatible here and we don't want to do all of #2038, we can design a third command (see the existing proposal) and give it a better name. kind load image-load is a confusing name.

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stmcginnis

It looks like podman does have the necessary commands now. So from what I can tell, this should be good just swapping out docker for podman when needed.

If we have a general common command for this, should we add a note to load docker-image that it is deprecated and this new command should be used instead?

BenTheElder · 2024-06-20T22:06:09Z

If we have a general common command for this, should we add a note to load docker-image that it is deprecated and this new command should be used instead?

We probably shouldn't deprecate docker-image, it's more specific and widely used.

We really need a discussed approach (preferably in a tracking issue) that also considers nerdctl / other runtimes.

3deep5me · 2024-12-01T11:31:29Z

Any news here?
Would love to see kind load with podman 😊

aojea · 2024-12-01T12:05:24Z

there is a workaround #2027 (comment) in the meantime

BenTheElder · 2024-12-02T17:42:37Z

Any news here?
Would love to see kind load with podman 😊

Please see the above comment and the tracking issue linked in it #3109 (comment)

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load add image-load, support podman load

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[WIP] runtime use kind: kind support podman kubernetes-sigs/kwok#323

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